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ZAmorakZaros
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Maiden China said :
]say you have 500 humans and over time the weaker ones keep getting eliminated until you have only about ten... do you imagine any of those left would be scared of mice? They might probably be even more scared! I didnt mean to suggest that they were eliminated by mice
Hazeel
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Well the choice is sacrifice someone or let the Muspah kill them. Assuming that every single one of them has an irrational fear of them is just ridiculous. They're one of the harder monsters available to fight and significantly harder than Kharshai when he isn't using magic. when you fight kharshai he's easy to beat because
a) he's weaker as a human than he is as a mahjarrat
b) he's not using his full power... he's not trying to kill you
c) the ingame difficulty of boss fights usually doesnt match up to their difficulty in the lore. Arrav is the greatest hero of all time (or very nearly, at least) and he'd be no match (ingame) for two random chaos dwarves who have very little reason to be as hard to beat as they are (aside from being at the end of the questline)
(if kharshai appeared as a boss elsewhere, I apologize, but the third point still stands) Zulkir said :
Easily. Your physical might has zero relation to what you're afraid of the mahjarrat aren't Cyrisus, they havent been fighting chickens all their lives. They're not 'just' powerful. They've been fighting gods and demons nearly as powerful as gods and at every point their closest friends might turn on them... at some point you don't really have much effort left over to be scared of things you know can't hurt you Carn
Maiden China said :
]say you have 500 humans and over time the weaker ones keep getting eliminated until you have only about ten... do you imagine any of those left would be scared of mice? They might probably be even more scared! I didnt mean to suggest that they were eliminated by mice
Hazeel
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Well the choice is sacrifice someone or let the Muspah kill them. Assuming that every single one of them has an irrational fear of them is just ridiculous. They're one of the harder monsters available to fight and significantly harder than Kharshai when he isn't using magic. when you fight kharshai he's easy to beat because
a) he's weaker as a human than he is as a mahjarrat
b) he's not using his full power... he's not trying to kill you
c) the ingame difficulty of boss fights usually doesnt match up to their difficulty in the lore. Arrav is the greatest hero of all time (or very nearly, at least) and he'd be no match (ingame) for two random chaos dwarves who have very little reason to be as hard to beat as they are (aside from being at the end of the questline)
(if kharshai appeared as a boss elsewhere, I apologize, but the third point still stands) Zulkir said :
Easily. Your physical might has zero relation to what you're afraid of the mahjarrat aren't Cyrisus, they havent been fighting chickens all their lives. They're not 'just' powerful. They've been fighting gods and demons nearly as powerful as gods and at every point their closest friends might turn on them... at some point you don't really have much effort left over to be scared of things you know can't hurt you Carn
13-Aug-2016 23:38:50 - Last edited on 13-Aug-2016 23:40:26 by Maiden China
Maiden China
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a) he's weaker as a human than he is as a mahjarrat
b) he's not using his full power... he's not trying to kill you
c) the ingame difficulty of boss fights usually doesnt match up to their difficulty in the lore. Arrav is the greatest hero of all time (or very nearly, at least) and he'd be no match (ingame) for two random chaos dwarves who have very little reason to be as hard to beat as they are (aside from being at the end of the questline)
a) Which I acknowledged. He's only using his physical skills.
b) As a human? Yes he is, that's why he kills you if you fail.
c) Humans are weak. Chaos dwarves are strong. Arrav is nothing exceptional, the only feat he ever accomplish was defeating Goblins. Even with only melee, Zemourgal was toying with him. He relied solely on the shield and had no special ability of his own. In fact, the only reason I think he was capable of anything in his new form is because Zemourgal added on to his power.
AesirWarrior said :
No, not at all, because the vast majority of mahjarrat would never ever fight or even see one. Muspah are so rare that Wahisietel believed they were just a myth. In fact, the last muspah sighting was thousands of years before his birth. Their features,danger, etc, could easily have been exaggerated over the millenia. It's the boogeyman of their culture, with loose ties to reality.
Anyway, they could have been a threat in the past, only in large numbers, or not at all, but I think we can all agree they're not a threat now.
They weren't "rare", they simply stopped coming by Wahisietel's time and, being the young, ignorant fool he is he just assumes the others made the Muspah up. And honestly, the Muspah aren't scary looking at all. Your average demon looks more intiminating. But the Muspah are clearly powerful as they're currently one of the strongest monsters in the game. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.
a) he's weaker as a human than he is as a mahjarrat
b) he's not using his full power... he's not trying to kill you
c) the ingame difficulty of boss fights usually doesnt match up to their difficulty in the lore. Arrav is the greatest hero of all time (or very nearly, at least) and he'd be no match (ingame) for two random chaos dwarves who have very little reason to be as hard to beat as they are (aside from being at the end of the questline)
a) Which I acknowledged. He's only using his physical skills.
b) As a human? Yes he is, that's why he kills you if you fail.
c) Humans are weak. Chaos dwarves are strong. Arrav is nothing exceptional, the only feat he ever accomplish was defeating Goblins. Even with only melee, Zemourgal was toying with him. He relied solely on the shield and had no special ability of his own. In fact, the only reason I think he was capable of anything in his new form is because Zemourgal added on to his power.
AesirWarrior said :
No, not at all, because the vast majority of mahjarrat would never ever fight or even see one. Muspah are so rare that Wahisietel believed they were just a myth. In fact, the last muspah sighting was thousands of years before his birth. Their features,danger, etc, could easily have been exaggerated over the millenia. It's the boogeyman of their culture, with loose ties to reality.
Anyway, they could have been a threat in the past, only in large numbers, or not at all, but I think we can all agree they're not a threat now.
They weren't "rare", they simply stopped coming by Wahisietel's time and, being the young, ignorant fool he is he just assumes the others made the Muspah up. And honestly, the Muspah aren't scary looking at all. Your average demon looks more intiminating. But the Muspah are clearly powerful as they're currently one of the strongest monsters in the game. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.
14-Aug-2016 00:50:11
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