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Unicornz pwn
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Unicornz pwn

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The Sub is still up, you people can continue using it for whatever until the FC fizzles out.

EDIT: It's come to my attention that I'm actually banned from the FC...considering I left it months ago it seems a tad unnecessary, but regardless, the Sub is yours to use freely.
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The Hooded Zarosian

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07-Dec-2016 02:45:54 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2016 02:55:33 by Unicornz pwn

Hazeel

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Yeah I stand corrected, the reddit is still there. I saw the screencap. Let me make this clear:

The generals are meant to serve the interests of the FC, not themselves. We all make mistakes, and sometimes we might make a bad decision upon kicking, but the purpose of kickng is to remove spam or unwanted content that turns the FC into a toxic place for everyone involved. (i.e. excessive fighting between two members) We are meant to protect the best interests of the FC members, not fight for the honor and glory of our digital Gods.

I don't care if someone compares Zaros to Hitler, Armadyl to Clinton, Zamorak to Trump, Saradomin to Kim Jong Un, etc. It does not justify kicking them. Your faction isn't that damn important. This is a Lore FC and while I can understand trying to avoid personal attacks, the members of this FC have the right to talk abou the lore and the character of the lore in any way they please with any interpretation they want. They aren't real and kicking someone over them isn't serving the FC, it's serving your own frail ego. You shouldn't be so damn sensetive over a game.

Honestly, you would probably be happier if you settled down a bit and maybe pointed out some of your own Gods faults from time to time instead of looking at things from such a narrow perspective. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

07-Dec-2016 03:07:26 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2016 03:09:01 by Hazeel

Raxxess

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Hazeel said :
Yeah I stand corrected, the reddit is still there. I saw the screencap. Let me make this clear...

I normally am pretty unbiased when it comes to being a general granted I haven't really had to do much but I did vouch to give Ageon a second chance.

But in this sense I can't help but be biased. We have on one side a general who is pretty well respected by the lore community at large not just the fc and on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this. I mean I don't really care much about faction bashing and I probably jokingly do it myself at times. But when that becomes all you do and its not something all in good fun or enjoyment I think its a problem not just for the people in the fc but for that person.

I know you and I have had our debates and stuff but its never taken too seriously.

With the individual in question I never get that vibe he takes this to an extreme that is borderline unhealthy and creepy. Normally factions don't matter in the FC but when you have an individual that takes this so seriously that they single out people in one faction to try mess with it kind of does matter. Is there any Saradominist that has ever had a positive experience with him?

I don't care as much normally because the ramblings are harmless, but when more than one person gets incredibly annoyed about it I don't see why a general shouldn't at their discretion kick that individual.

I mean in truth how is what he is doing now any different than what ancient did?
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07-Dec-2016 04:00:33 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2016 04:12:33 by Raxxess

CD_Paladin_C

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Raxxess said :
on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this.

Never been banned before from the lore fc. Only time I've ever been banned from a fc was when your faction invited me to one of your personal fcs back when uni, lethal, and me were running Zarosian FC, and you banned me when I told you guys that you should read Tails Gets Trolled (everyone should infact, the chapter 7 audiobook was released on youtube last week). "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
-The Lore Community to our Saradominist Friends, Said During World Event 2, Proven During World Event 3.
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07-Dec-2016 04:17:39

Unicornz pwn
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Unicornz pwn

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CD_Paladin_C said :
Raxxess said :
on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this.

Never been banned before from the lore fc. Only time I've ever been banned from a fc was when your faction invited me to one of your personal fcs back when uni, lethal, and me were running Zarosian FC, and you banned me when I told you guys that you should read Tails Gets Trolled (everyone should infact, the chapter 7 audiobook was released on youtube last week).
Zarosian FC, that takes me back :')

Can confirm Pally has never been banned from Lore FC, he's always been a wholesome presence.
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07-Dec-2016 04:19:41

Ascertes

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CD_Paladin_C said :

Never been banned before from the lore fc. Only time I've ever been banned from a fc was when your faction invited me to one of your personal fcs back when uni, lethal, and me were running Zarosian FC, and you banned me when I told you guys that you should read Tails Gets Trolled (everyone should infact, the chapter 7 audiobook was released on youtube last week).

Actually that's not true. You have been previously banned. Your ban occurred even before we moved from Lore Union to Lore FC. It wasn't until the release of one quest (I cant' remember which) that you were unbanned. And that was only because I said it would be unfair if you and others weren't unbanned if we were going to unban another certain individual. -Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

07-Dec-2016 04:21:56

Half Centaur
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Raxxess said :


But in this sense I can't help but be biased. We have on one side a general who is pretty well respected by the lore community at large not just the fc and on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this. I mean I don't really care much about faction bashing and I probably jokingly do it myself at times. But when that becomes all you do and its not something all in good fun or enjoyment I think its a problem not just for the people in the fc but for that person.


What bothers me is how unexpected this was. I like Sky a lot, and we get a long fine. Which is why I even bothered pm'ing him to tell him no rules were being broken.

And when you take into consideration the fact that the topic had already shifted away from what he was being warned about- then that accuastion of trolling being the only thing he does falls away.

Faction bashing is not against the rules. He wasn't insulting people- he was insulting a character. There's no rule against that in the fc. And while he does love to bash Saradomin, if you cared you'd note thats not the only thing he does. We don't ban other people for only talking about camels, we can't ban someone for only talking about how bad they think Saradomin is. "We call it being a hero"
"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"

07-Dec-2016 04:35:31

Raxxess

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Half Centaur said :
Raxxess said :


But in this sense I can't help but be biased. We have on one side a general who is pretty well respected by the lore community at large not just the fc and on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this. I mean I don't really care much about faction bashing and I probably jokingly do it myself at times. But when that becomes all you do and its not something all in good fun or enjoyment I think its a problem not just for the people in the fc but for that person.


What bothers me is how unexpected this was. I like Sky a lot, and we get a long fine. Which is why I even bothered pm'ing him to tell him no rules were being broken.

And when you take into consideration the fact that the topic had already shifted away from what he was being warned about- then that accuastion of trolling being the only thing he does falls away.

Faction bashing is not against the rules. He wasn't insulting people- he was insulting a character. There's no rule against that in the fc. And while he does love to bash Saradomin, if you cared you'd note thats not the only thing he does. We don't ban other people for only talking about camels, we can't ban someone for only talking about how bad they think Saradomin is.


Sky is pretty chill and I don't get what bothers you about it? This was a pretty justifiable kick he didn't explicitly and intentionally break any rules which is why he isn't banned it did look like he was intentionally trolling and starting drama sky saw fit to kick him, he was kicked and just joined right back.

Not sure what the issue is here why even have generals if there is a tribunal everytime someone gets kicked? I get it if it someone kicking someone just because they don't like them but given the instance and the history of the guy that was kicked I don't see an issue
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07-Dec-2016 04:58:07 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2016 05:11:41 by Raxxess

Half Centaur
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Raxxess said :

Sky is pretty chill and I don't get what bothers you about it? This was a pretty justifiable kick he didn't explicitly and intentionally break any rules which is why he isn't banned it did look like he was intentionally trolling and starting drama sky saw fit to kick him, he was kicked and just joined right back.

Not sure what the issue is here why even have generals if there is a tribunal everytime someone gets kicked? I get it if it someone kicking someone just because they don't like them but given the instance and the history of the guy that was kicked I don't see an issue

The kick was utterly unjustified. Look at the screen shots- Paladin wasn't even the only one trolling about Saradomin.

Making fun of Saradomin doesn't even count as trolling or starting drama. After Sky "warned him" we even changed topic.

There's an issue because the kick was unwarranted. I even told Sky this while he was warning him. We make fun of characters and elements of the game all the time, and I refuse to accept that when someone decides to make fun of Saradomin, we all have to get down on our knees and kick whoever dare disagree with the groupthink. It's ridiculous.

Did you even look at the screenshots?

Sky was starting more drama by insulting him and calling him a troll anyway, Paladin brought up something about Saradomin and Tuska, then Sky turns around, says he's tired of his fanfiction and faction bashing, brings up Paladin's guide for some reason, then says its filled with lies- then kicks Paladin. It was bizarre. That's why I'm disappointed. "We call it being a hero"
"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"

07-Dec-2016 05:31:17

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