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SwedishPagns said :
He has good intentions, even though he did questionable things, and he wants to stop Gielinor from being destroyed by the evil elder gods. He doesn't even want to be worshipped (unlike Saradork and the Usurper) and he wants the world to belong to mortals, like Guthix. He's clearly the noblest, most honorable, and most righteous god. How can you not side with something so good?

The "wants to do good, but has done questionable things" motif applies to everyone at this point (I suppose the case for Armadyl not seeming so can be made, but it's been implied...and so far, Armadyl has as much character development as a generic henchman in a James Bond film). Hell, we can even apply this to Seren.

As for not wanting worship, Zaros isn't exactly like Guthix in that regard. He seems to take your offering or worship and loyalty if you're willing to give it, whereas Guthix went to extreme lengths to make himself an afterthought to his followers (perhaps a bit much, and a tad bit more absurd, but that's just personal reflection on my part - think of him how you wish).

Saradomin has a deity-centric religion, but that's kind of the point. Unlike the other Gods, his ideaology stands on the premise of him acting as a de-facto leader and governing from a seat of power as a God-Emperor of sorts. But that's how he feels it best to act as a God: take the direct approach, ensure things firsthand. For the people that want that sort of thing, they seem satisfied with the worship aspect of it.

On the other hand, Zamorak's ideaology is pretty much the least worship-based (or one of). The whole thing is about learning to stand on your own two feet, and focusing on your own abilities and whatnot, than just praying on your knees to Zamorak. In his world, Jagex tells us mortals would basically be doing things as they please, be it good or bad. It's up to us to decide how to handle it, with his intervention only in extreme scenarios. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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30-Oct-2014 20:27:29 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2014 20:45:01 by Aterivus

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If I recall...

Didn't Jagex mention Zaros had, roughly, 96% of people help him (as in, gave him the dark simulacrum)?

I know that was a statistic given shortly after the quest's release, but I assume the rush of questers doing it on release (or shortly after) account for a massive chunk of the total amount of people who'd be doing it at all. That said, it's likely the help/sabotage rates are similar even now. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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30-Oct-2014 20:43:13 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2014 20:44:57 by Aterivus

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Aterivus said :
If I recall...

Didn't Jagex mention Zaros had, roughly, 96% of people help him (as in, gave him the dark simulacrum)?

I know that was a statistic given shortly after the quest's release, but I assume the rush of questers doing it on release (or shortly after) account for a massive chunk of the total amount of people who'd be doing it at all. That said, it's likely the help/sabotage rates are similar even now.

Yeah the statistics for that were amazing.

Not that I'm surprised, We're not the only people interested in Lore.

Probably not to our extent though.
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30-Oct-2014 21:08:24

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Cthris said :
I kinda wish i didn't help, not because I think i made the wrong choice, just because I want to see what would happen later in the story.

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30-Oct-2014 23:24:47

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SwedishPagns said :
But on a more serious note, why would anyone actually sabotage Zaros? He has good intentions, even though he did questionable things, and he wants to stop Gielinor from being destroyed by the evil elder gods. He doesn't even want to be worshipped (unlike Saradork and the Usurper) and he wants the world to belong to mortals, like Guthix. He's clearly the noblest, most honorable, and most righteous god. How can you not side with something so good?

I sabotaged him for several reasons.

1) He can and will limit mortal potential. In the Zamorak podcast, Jagex said all the Gods (except Zammy and maybe Bandos) limit the power of mortals and particularly cited Zaros of doing so.

2) He told me his plan. What he didn't do is give me a reason to believe that it isn't poorly though out...cause honestly, his plan sounds terrible. How can he expect a group of Elders (who he admits would hate him) to suddenly listen just because he's an Elder God? They outnumber him and he isn't good at fighting, so they outmatch him too. It sounds like he's just speeding up the revision.

Also, as an Elder, wouldn't he need to start om nom noming on the world too in order to survive?

3) I don't trust him. I don't care if he says he's not going to control us, I already know he's going to limit us and I see no reason to give him this power.

4) There's things about him that I simply don't like, such as his glorification of the Chthonian life style, his involvement in making the current vampire society, and how he's warped the Mahjarrat. Even Zaros admits he's only going to "mostly stay out of our way", which means he will act out when things don't go the way he wants (just like Guthix did in the God Wars), and I don't like the world he'd probably shape.

5) Because I know I can still help him later if I change my mind. But this way I have Zaros on a tighter leash, which gives me more flexibility.

30-Oct-2014 23:25:37 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2014 23:27:42 by Lord Bilrach

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