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Yusou Bhoroi

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Though these quotes may represent positives, there are also negatives, both in them, and in general in-game lore.

Having read through both the quotes, and then the whole thread, I've seen selective interpretation of the quotes, which is then used in argument against others (as fact), I'll come to that after highlighting a few bits of in-game lore that pose other sides to points brought up in the thread:


1) There is a claim made that Saradomin fought Tuska for the Naragi, twice in this thread; and while other things are backed up with quotes, that's just an ascertion, and as far as I'm aware (please provide quotes for another view - preferably ones from the time, and both sides so that it's not just post-event justification ~ remember memory is fallable, both for us and for deities, so more recently accounted things cannot really be so relied upon).


While the evidence we (or at least I) have for this is only from one side in the conflict, it does come from more than one source, both geographically and socially. I'll post it here, along with certain deductions, that lead me to be disbelieving of Saradomin having protective feelings towards the Naragi, with regards to Tuska.

Please bear in mind that these are not comments on Saradomins present morals, or his feelings now about those actions, it is merely a counter to there being any doubt over his hostile intentions towards the Naragi, despite Tuska's presence. It may also highlight how easily his actions can be drawn against his own philosophy, when rash actions and instinct conflicts with it. This may be due to lack of forethought, or lack of empathy for the alien (to his own 'norm' - this doesn't have to be related to physical form).

Guthixian Memories
Kaigi's Journal

24-Oct-2014 11:11:00 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2014 11:27:25 by Yusou Bhoroi

Yusou Bhoroi

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"The only chance the naragi have is to lead Tuska and her airut to Saradomin, inciting a battle between the two factions. With luck, they will kill each other. Regardless, we will take advantage of their battle. It is our hope that it will give us time to escape"

- Kaigi's Journal; I propose that this being the view of some of the last surviving in their camp, was reprasentative of Naragi understanding of the conflict and the actions of the participants. If there were other motives, they were not made clear - something that would have greatly aided Saradomin, if he were indeed wishing to save Naragi from Tuska.

In context this quote forms the following entry:

"We returned to the camp and warned the others. Some decided to go back to their homes, to die in the places where they had grown up. Only Na**x and his entourage remain in the camp now, I among them. Na**x is adamant we fight back, and has stated a new plan. The only chance the naragi have is to lead Tuska and her airut to Saradomin, inciting a battle between the two factions. With luck, they will kill each other. Regardless, we will take advantage of their battle. It is our hope that it will give us time to escape. While Tuska and Saradomin are distracted, we can make for the airut's portal, which is guarded by more beasts than we can manage. With luck and courage, we may be able to get past them, and into whatever world they came from.

I carry my journal with me, in the hope that I will be able to pass this on, once I have lived well and had a family. But, if that is not my fate, then perhaps the scavenger airut will unwittingly carry my words to other worlds. There is some joy to be had at the thought."


This makes it very clear that by 'fight' they meant bother about whether they live at all; without fighting for life (to give a slight chance of escape), they would die. Having to come with such a plan just to survive doesn't point to any form of negotiation.

24-Oct-2014 11:11:07 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2014 11:16:36 by Yusou Bhoroi

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