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Britisher

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CakeRider said :
Britisher said :
Is meaningless conquest of those who do not wish to be conquered truly "defence"? ;)

I prompt the question, can people (and yes Saradomin is a person ) ever really change? His past conscious actions are beyond forgiveable in my opinion, especially with the Naragi - and the arrogance which he claims brought this does not appear to have dissipated.

Ultimately he destroyed the city and refused the leave the Naragi in peace, hence worsening the situation. And he did so to be worshipped, to rule.


Can you forgive someone for something they regret doing when they were young so long ago it doesn't even matter? I suppose you also hate Seren for cursing the elves, something she did selfishly and has also shown no signs of regretting nor any attempts to make it better, just liek Saradomin.

I seriously don't see why Jagex keep painting Saradomin as a baby-mongering, war-eating demon, when he was fine as he was. There's a difference between making someone grey and making someone blacker than black.
Seren regretted her actions immediately and sought to make it right throughout the remainder of her time on Gielinor...!

There are no signs to suggest that the same is true for Saradomin, who invaded countless groups to "protect" them... Just like what he did on Naragi. For example: the Fremennik.
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14-Jul-2015 15:51:51

Captain Lime
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ZAmorakZaros said :

Human's just aren't good gods. Saradomin's actions show it. He is a good human but a god? Not a good idea.


I'd like to extend that statement so that mortals ascending to Godhood is generally a very bad idea, it's just that humans are so plentiful that it's very easy to generalize them.

FOR EXAMPLE:
1. You've got Bandos, who eradicated at least two whole planets and probably more, the first so he could gain the power (and because he wanted to), and the second because he wanted to.
2. V points out Xau-Tak, and the Queen of Ashes specifically. Xau-Tak is definitely not human, and the Queen of Ashes may or may not be a human.
3. Loarnab was a complete Tyrant, and didn't uplift his people like other deities.
4. Zamorak (arguably a former mortal) incinerated an entire continent, rather than forfeit his power.

In my opinion, it isn't just humans who make bad gods. It's that to become a god is usually a very bad idea, and this is spread across numerous races and cultures.
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17-Jul-2015 03:59:57

Shadoliax
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Captain Lime said :
ZAmorakZaros said :

Human's just aren't good gods. Saradomin's actions show it. He is a good human but a god? Not a good idea.


I'd like to extend that statement so that mortals ascending to Godhood is generally a very bad idea, it's just that humans are so plentiful that it's very easy to generalize them.

FOR EXAMPLE:
1. You've got Bandos, who eradicated at least two whole planets and probably more, the first so he could gain the power (and because he wanted to), and the second because he wanted to.
2. V points out Xau-Tak, and the Queen of Ashes specifically. Xau-Tak is definitely not human, and the Queen of Ashes may or may not be a human.
3. Loarnab was a complete Tyrant, and didn't uplift his people like other deities.
4. Zamorak (arguably a former mortal) incinerated an entire continent, rather than forfeit his power.

In my opinion, it isn't just humans who make bad gods. It's that to become a god is usually a very bad idea, and this is spread across numerous races and cultures.


Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't think Saradomin is any more guilty of this than any other god.

It would be interesting to see Saradomin in a lawgiver role rather than as a mission assigner.

17-Jul-2015 05:35:29

Neo Bestia

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Saradomin's main role apaprently, when his not at war, is to deal with issues of law and governance. It doesn't seem to be very interesting from what I gathered. I believe it was Mod Jack who said that during the zarosian empire other gods, such as Saradomin mainly had to treat end-tier cases of law and the such.

18-Jul-2015 02:48:51

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Neo Bestia said :
Saradomin's main role apaprently, when his not at war, is to deal with issues of law and governance. It doesn't seem to be very interesting from what I gathered. I believe it was Mod Jack who said that during the zarosian empire other gods, such as Saradomin mainly had to treat end-tier cases of law and the such.

In the case of Saradomin v. Garlandia, Supreme Justice Saradomin rules in favor of the plaintiff.
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18-Jul-2015 05:06:12 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2015 05:08:44 by Raleirosen

Neo Bestia

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Raleirosen said :
Neo Bestia said :
Saradomin's main role apaprently, when his not at war, is to deal with issues of law and governance. It doesn't seem to be very interesting from what I gathered. I believe it was Mod Jack who said that during the zarosian empire other gods, such as Saradomin mainly had to treat end-tier cases of law and the such.

In the case of Saradomin v. Garlandia, Supreme Justice Saradomin rules in favor of the plaintiff.


We need Judge Judy ASAP.

18-Jul-2015 07:06:27

ZAmorakZaros
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Shadoliax said :
Captain Lime said :
ZAmorakZaros said :

Human's just aren't good gods. Saradomin's actions show it. He is a good human but a god? Not a good idea.


I'd like to extend that statement so that mortals ascending to Godhood is generally a very bad idea, it's just that humans are so plentiful that it's very easy to generalize them.

FOR EXAMPLE:
1. You've got Bandos, who eradicated at least two whole planets and probably more, the first so he could gain the power (and because he wanted to), and the second because he wanted to.
2. V points out Xau-Tak, and the Queen of Ashes specifically. Xau-Tak is definitely not human, and the Queen of Ashes may or may not be a human.
3. Loarnab was a complete Tyrant, and didn't uplift his people like other deities.
4. Zamorak (arguably a former mortal) incinerated an entire continent, rather than forfeit his power.

In my opinion, it isn't just humans who make bad gods. It's that to become a god is usually a very bad idea, and this is spread across numerous races and cultures.


Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't think Saradomin is any more guilty of this than any other god.

It would be interesting to see Saradomin in a lawgiver role rather than as a mission assigner.

Everyone changes when getting godhood. When you get more power you still retain your old flaws.
NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

05-Oct-2015 15:54:11

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