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Cthris
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I expect disagreements and I welcome them, what I can not abide is pretentiousness, sarcasm, and hypocrisy. In this case of Saradomin and Zaros we have Neo posting a thread about the things wrong with the Zarosian past, Zaros himself, his empire and so forth. In all of his examples on his thread an equal action has been committed by his own deity, yet that is conveniently disregarded and forgotten. That is what is most annoying to me, it is known that all factions have flaws, it is asinine to take a stance of the 'higher ground' when your hands are dirty.

Considering the thread is about Zaros and not about Saradomin, why would he bring up Saradomin, that is completely off topic. Neo did nothing wrong, if he wants to post about how Zaros is flawed who cares, he backs up all his points anyways, so if you don't agree debate it with him. He is not hypocritical for not accepting that Zaros has changed and Saradomin has, he brought up points why he thinks he is still the same, and blah blah blah, i'm not posting them. Again if you disagree debate it with him.


Well to be fair I said I shouldn't generalize, I was making a point however. Time and time again, even though they have problems of their own [which they don't seem to acknowledge] Saradominists appear and point their fingers upon the wrong doing of others. Of course we all think our choices are superior but this is encroaching upon downright ignorance and close mindedness.

You knowingly generalized, way to go. And here you are pointing fingers at others for their actions, what makes what your doing any better, you just became the thing you hate, a hypocrite.

01-May-2014 12:04:51

Ancientm3ge

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Noct I think you are failing to see what I am trying to say, we will simply have to agree to disagree as continuing this will not get us anywhere.

I'm not upset that others do not like Zaros lol, you have said I should take a break from the forums three separate times now...I don't need a break I'm fine.

I want to end the faction bashing and discuss lore without demeaning others.
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01-May-2014 12:09:45

Raxxess

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Ancientm3ge said :
Cthris said :
Then the best way to do that is stop your own factions faction bashing first...

I would if I could, I even tried to reach out to the Saradominists as seen here

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That a thread was a while ago but you still put all saradominists under the bus, and then said they were a "waste of time."

I think all noct is trying to say and I agree with him, is if you want less bashing of your faction then you yourself and your faction have to stop bashing.
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01-May-2014 13:33:28

Balustan

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Which is entirely unrealistic because we cannot stop other people stop bashing in any way. At most you can stop yourself. Factions are hurting lore discussion overall well the roleplay factions and not the factions in the lore. The problem is we shouldn't be discussing our own opinions as this thread does and many other threads do. This thread was created to say this is why I believe this about Saradomim and why you should think the same. We should be discussing the lore itself without bringing our opinions into it in such a way. Also never should the topic of s thread be peoples opinions about the lore just the lore itself.
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01-May-2014 13:41:17

Raxxess

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Balustan said :
Which is entirely unrealistic because we cannot stop other people stop bashing in any way. At most you can stop yourself. Factions are hurting lore discussion overall well the roleplay factions and not the factions in the lore. The problem is we shouldn't be discussing our own opinions as this thread does and many other threads do. This thread was created to say this is why I believe this about Saradomim and why you should think the same. We should be discussing the lore itself without bringing our opinions into it in such a way. Also never should the topic of s thread be peoples opinions about the lore just the lore itself.

I agree on the more self discipline in that respect, but I wouldn't say she would get rid of opinion. I mean opinion is the whole point of discussion because all the lore we get is ambiguous and can be taken many ways, I mean people are going to be bias and just see the lore as they want it but it is the discussion where we get the other side of that. Faction bashing is bad but I don't think factions are a bad thing, they get more people involved in lore and build communities within communities.
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01-May-2014 13:46:05

Balustan

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I think stating your opinion is fine but entire threads dedicated to explaining why that's your opinion aren't great. The premise and content of a thread should be more objective saying this thing happened, this person said this, this might have happened etc without any opinions unless you are saying something very small like in my opinion this thing I just speculated about would be a good twist.

It's easy to see that currently the lore forum is lacking variety of topics (for a variety of reasons, the new style of storytelling with less points to base theories etc on, the focus on the 6th age etc) as well as variety of thread types. My personal preference for thread types are grand theories which is the one we see least these days sadly. I personally dislike catalogue threads but they serve a purpose in that people that are not knowledgable about lore can go and learn a lot there and it's great if you have forgotten something.

We also tend to see some shallow threads pop up from time to time. This character vs this character is kind of stupid and discussable to a point but when you get a thread for each pairing it sucks. Also really short question and answer threads could all be one thread where you can ask simple lore questions and players can answer them quickly.
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01-May-2014 13:52:55

Adam Teal

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Balustan said :
@Scorpius but you say that while at the same time expecting us to read the thread and be like "ok Saradomin isn't a bad guy cause he regrets the things he's done" Saradomin may not expect it to be enough but Saradominists on this forum certainly seem to.

Nothing she did would excuse the Wing Ripping. Nobody deserves it. It'd be like your arms being pulled off for not joining a war. Sure you can be punished for not joining a war when conscripted but ripping off limbs doesn't happen.

Doesn't matter how he feels about the city or the people who died because of it. It doesn't matter if the Naragi were hostile even. They stold no chance Saradomin could have simply retreated.

Genocide you seem to be forgetting the third age.

Yes annoyance is the reason to bury the only way beings such as Zamorak would have of finding out about the Dragonkin curse thus dooming the world eventually. Also it was clearly to ensure nobody else could find out about the artefact and get it before he did as he believes is his right.

I don't care if time was of the essence. The centaurs don't need resurrected neither did Owen. Their time had come they should have been allowed to rest. He doesn't need another army.

Additionally he says he regrets these things but the pattern remains the same.

He is denied something.
He angers and destroys something.
He regrets it.

The only consolation is his destructive tendencies have gotten less extreme over time from city destroying to hurting individuals.

Again, dude, read the Garlandia section, as I'm not copy + pasting it.

I'm not trying to Justify the Naragi world...

3rd age was extermination, and Zammy, Arma, and Bandos joined in as well.

I said "Maybe" he was annoyed. And what are the chances of Zamorak deliberately going out to see if a talking statue knows anything about the SoJ...

Sir Owen wanted to be revived and so do the Centaurs. They begged Fern to revive their loved ones...

03-May-2014 07:00:17

Edcy

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It is actually curious how all the ingrediments for this humanic rattle keeps on existing... It is beyond even me myself indeed! This wheel has gotten to point where even the bitsiest slices are noticed and forged for defence against the other side of arguers. Whatwhatwhy? Where is the final fate, to rip this alas poor sleeve off into the after 50th page. It is where i never go, ever, apparently. Anda where be dis, then, hmmm-

03-May-2014 20:46:42 - Last edited on 03-May-2014 20:47:38 by Edcy

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