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Lego Miester
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WarShuriken said :

The only few factions who WON'T destroy Gelinor:
-Godless
-Seren
-Zaros

I doubt that's accurate. I don't exactly trust Kara-mier considering she has either no plan if she somehow gets rid of the gods, or she has a secret plan that she doesn't want us to hear. Two ways to read her uncomfortable silence.

Seren might not destroy Gielinor, but there's that thing that if she's rebuilt she could go cookoo for cocoa puffs. All bets are off then.

No one even knows with Zaros... Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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28-Jan-2014 02:55:42

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Saradomin is not the "benevolent" and "peaceful" god he may seem. Do you think ripping off an icyene's wings due to a misunderstanding is moral?

Mod Moltare apparently implied on Twitter recently that there's more than just Garlandia's side of the story. Personally, I don't think she is (or was) as pacifist as she claims.

Well of course Saradomin has done things for the world, one stopping Zamorak (which I think is unnecessary)

Unnecessary in what way? Zamorak (while doing so with good intention) willfully puts people in danger on a regular basis and shows no signs of stopping.

Saradomin used the Stone of Jas on Zilyana, for his sake and hers too, but this of course was not beneficial to anyone except for them, which I think was showing human greed

I really don't follow this. How is taking time out from the war effort to resurrect a faithful soldier selfish?

And about the BoL incident, if in fact Zamorak had successfully won the BoL, Zaros' return would have most definitely shocked Zamorak and would ultimately lead to his demise. Thus the BoL was unnecessary.

This makes even less sense. Are you saying BoL was pointless because Zaros would just destroy the winner? If so, then how would that make it pointless (and furthermore, what makes BoL more pointless than other world events if this is the case)?

28-Jan-2014 04:42:19

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Falcoshin said :
This makes even less sense. Are you saying BoL was pointless because Zaros would just destroy the winner? If so, then how would that make it pointless (and furthermore, what makes BoL more pointless than other world events if this is the case)?

All world events are pointless in the end because all the gods are nothing compared to the corporeal form of Mod Osbourne Zaros.

The seventh age will probably canonically begin with none of the gods on Gielinor, and it'll be implied in dialogue that Zaros successfully became fate.

28-Jan-2014 04:46:55

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Reminds me of a Zarosian prayer taught to me by a friend:

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OMG ZAROS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FANTASTICAL!!!! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ HE IS MY SAVIOR AND IS GOING TO STOP LUCIEN AND REBUILD HIS FORTRESSES AND KILL ZAMORAK AND TAKE BACK HIS SPOT AND START A SECOND GOD WARS BECAUSE HE CAN BECAUSE HE ISNT EFFECTED BY THE GUTHIXIAN EDICTS BECAUSE HES AWESOME LIKE THAT!!!!@@@@@@@@@@ OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGZAROSGODSWORDZAROSGODSWORDZAROSGODSWORD!!! THE SPECIAL ATTACK USES 10% OF THE BAR AND IT DEALS 1500 DAMAGE TO EVERYTHING IN A 5x5 SQUARE FROM THE TARGET, INCLUDING YOU CUZ ZAROS IS EVIL LIKE THAT AND HES SUPER GOFFIX!!!!@@@@@!!)@*!@)#&(^&#(@^#@)*^#)*^# OH AND THE SPECIAL IS RANGE BASED CUZ ZAROS KILLS ARMADYL SO HE RULES RANGE AND MAGIC AND NOT JUST MAGIC SO ITS ACTUALLY MAGIC BASED RANGE FROM A MELEE WEAPON CUZ ZAROS WILL ALSO KILL BANDOS AND SO THE SPECIAL CAN BE USED FROM A DISTANCE TO AVOID DEATH!@!@@!@!@!@#(@(@&(&@ OH AND IM A MAHJARRAT CUZ ZAROS WANTED TO THANK ME FOR REVIVING HIM SO HE MADE ME ONE BY LETTING ME STAB LUCIEN IN THE BACK WITH THE STAFF OF ZAROS CUZ ZAROS STOLE THE STAFF OF ARMADYL AND CORRUPTED IT CUZ HES SO POWERFUL SO NOW ITS THE STAFF OF ZAROS!!!!!!!!!!!


But I digress...

28-Jan-2014 04:54:45 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2014 05:00:46 by Falcoshin

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Lego Miester said :
WarShuriken said :

The only few factions who WON'T destroy Gelinor:
-Godless
-Seren
-Zaros

I doubt that's accurate. I don't exactly trust Kara-mier considering she has either no plan if she somehow gets rid of the gods, or she has a secret plan that she doesn't want us to hear. Two ways to read her uncomfortable silence.

Seren might not destroy Gielinor, but there's that thing that if she's rebuilt she could go cookoo for cocoa puffs. All bets are off then.

No one even knows with Zaros...
I'd generally say that the Godless and Zaros won't destroy Gielinor, but more or less better than the other gods. Seren however, I'm quite positive that she won't destory Gielinor.

04-Feb-2014 04:36:45

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Falcoshin said :
Saradomin is not the "benevolent" and "peaceful" god he may seem. Do you think ripping off an icyene's wings due to a misunderstanding is moral?

Mod Moltare apparently implied on Twitter recently that there's more than just Garlandia's side of the story. Personally, I don't think she is (or was) as pacifist as she claims.

Well of course Saradomin has done things for the world, one stopping Zamorak (which I think is unnecessary)

Unnecessary in what way? Zamorak (while doing so with good intention) willfully puts people in danger on a regular basis and shows no signs of stopping.

Saradomin used the Stone of Jas on Zilyana, for his sake and hers too, but this of course was not beneficial to anyone except for them, which I think was showing human greed

I really don't follow this. How is taking time out from the war effort to resurrect a faithful soldier selfish?

And about the BoL incident, if in fact Zamorak had successfully won the BoL, Zaros' return would have most definitely shocked Zamorak and would ultimately lead to his demise. Thus the BoL was unnecessary.

This makes even less sense. Are you saying BoL was pointless because Zaros would just destroy the winner? If so, then how would that make it pointless (and furthermore, what makes BoL more pointless than other world events if this is the case)?
Quote 2 & 4: Battle of Lumbridge doesn't change anything except for making Saradomin stronger and Zamorak weaker. Zaros would eventually avenge his "death" in some way. Saradomin might as well destroyed Lumbridge with Zamorak without helping rebuild it.
Quote 3: Do you even think Saradomin would use the Stone of Jas on a deceased truly benevolent person who follows another god? Absolutely not, he only cares about his followers, much like most other gods, making most gods, including Saradomin, greedy beings

04-Feb-2014 04:48:47

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Zaros would eventually avenge his "death" in some way.

Zaros has no real concept of revenge and ergo has no real motivation to do this.

Saradomin might as well destroyed Lumbridge with Zamorak without helping rebuild it.

You obviously did not see the same opening cutscene as everyone else as Sardomin was actively preventing Zamorak from destroying Lumbridge initially.

Do you even think Saradomin would use the Stone of Jas on a deceased truly benevolent person who follows another god?

Not in a time of war, no, but otherwise he probably would if he had the means readily available and their death was untimely enough to warrant such intervention.

04-Feb-2014 05:08:28 - Last edited on 04-Feb-2014 10:31:56 by Falcoshin

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WarShuriken said :
Saradomin is not the "benevolent" and "peaceful" god he may seem. Do you think ripping off an icyene's wings due to a misunderstanding is moral? Well of course Saradomin has done things for the world, one stopping Zamorak (which I think is unnecessary), and two trying to pave a path for his followers. But this poses a problem, Saradomin used the Stone of Jas on Zilyana, for his sake and hers too, but this of course was not beneficial to anyone except for them, which I think was showing human greed, as Saradomin is in fact human in some form or fashion. And about the BoL incident, if in fact Zamorak had successfully won the BoL, Zaros' return would have most definitely shocked Zamorak and would ultimately lead to his demise. Thus the BoL was unnecessary.
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The only few factions who WON'T destroy Gelinor:
-Godless
-Seren
-Zaros


As a zarosian I wish I could support you, yet I can't as you have too many flaws in the quote, you might be missing information so I try to help clear this up.


1) the wings ripping is currently unknown what the exact events were, better to wait until we get a second opinion.

2) stopping Zamorak, although we know Zamorak was not attacking the villagers, it sure as heck looked like he was, what exactly should Saradomin have done, in his eyes Zamorack was attacking his people, of corse he should have stopped him. Tbh I don't really blame Zamorack for the battle either, it's just unfortunate the two had to meet then and there in that circumstance.

3) revival of his loyal follower, well that can hardly be held against him, if my dog died I would bring her back to life even though I guess it could be called selfish.

4) Bol unessisary cause of Zaros want for revenge.So what time can you pick me up?

Jmods have said he doesn't want revenge, also Sara doesn't know he is even alive

05-Feb-2014 18:37:21

Cybernet377
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Cthris said :

2) stopping Zamorak, although we know Zamorak was not attacking the villagers, it sure as heck looked like he was, what exactly should Saradomin have done, in his eyes Zamorack was attacking his people, of corse he should have stopped him. Tbh I don't really blame Zamorack for the battle either, it's just unfortunate the two had to meet then and there in that circumstance.

Mod Raven: I don’t know why, but a lot of people go for the good guy kind of thing. They like to support who they think of as the more heroic faction.
Mod Osborne: Sure.
Mod Raven: In our opening cutscene, we do have Saradomin sort of defending Lumbridge. He’s not really. He’s just hitting Zamorak. It just looks like he’s defending.
Mod Osborne: Yeah.

05-Feb-2014 20:49:05

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