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Velia
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Velia

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Nelfarion44 said :
I am a bad Zamorakian because I am questioning something? Sure.
And that 'something' which you happen to be questioning is part of the core philosophy of Zam-Zam.

This is what a Zamorakian might think:
Zam created chaos so the village may better itself, and the individuals who were too weak or 'in the wrong place at the wrong time' died. The weak ones would just be a drain on the village, impairing the survival of the other members.

10-Dec-2013 16:52:35

Nerevarine x

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Nelfarion44 said :
But I never thought he was weeding the weak.

Well it seems he was.

At the very least, the fire he started killed people, weak or not.

This wouldn't be so bad if he felt remorse and learnt from his actions like Saradomin did, trying to redeem himself and realise his chaos is wrong.

But he doesn't, he continues to cause destruction and death, it is part of his philosophy and foolishly he believes it benefits people.

10-Dec-2013 17:01:25

Nerevarine x

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Nelfarion44 said :
I am a bad Zamorakian because I am questioning something? Sure.

No, I think they were referring to you attempting to find a justification for why people dying in the village was ok, when it seemed you were against the idea (if you need convincing then you don't hold Zamorak's theory of chaos highly in my opinion).

But that's not a bad thing, maybe you're suited better to another God.

Perhaps you should embrace Saradomin and see the light.

Reading this thread in its entirety will help you decide. Keep an open mind and read carefully, you'll soon recognise his benevolence.

10-Dec-2013 17:01:25 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2013 17:09:10 by Nerevarine x

Chaos Lupus

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Nerevarine x said :
Nelfarion44 said :
But I never thought he was weeding the weak.

Well it seems he was.

At the very least, the fire he started killed people, weak or not.

This wouldn\'t be so bad if he felt remorse and learnt from his actions like Saradomin did, trying to redeem himself and realise his chaos is wrong.

But he doesn\'t, he continues to cause destruction and death, it is part of his philosophy and foolishly he believes it benefits people.

For one, it does benefit people, and I very much disagree that Saradomin is redeemed because he feels 'sorry'. Apologies don't fix things.
The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

10-Dec-2013 17:32:56

Nerevarine x

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Chaos Lupus said :
Nerevarine x said :
Nelfarion44 said :
But I never thought he was weeding the weak.

Well it seems he was.

At the very least, the fire he started killed people, weak or not.

This wouldn\\'t be so bad if he felt remorse and learnt from his actions like Saradomin did, trying to redeem himself and realise his chaos is wrong.

But he doesn\\'t, he continues to cause destruction and death, it is part of his philosophy and foolishly he believes it benefits people.

For one, it does benefit people, and I very much disagree that Saradomin is redeemed because he feels \'sorry\'. Apologies don\'t fix things.

In the long run Zamorak's chaos may or may not help strengthen a community or force them to innovate, but he kills people to do this and causes great suffering, so it's not justified.

And true, regret and remorse is only part of redemption, which is why Saradomin did more than apologise and acted upon it to protect the Naragi. Only when it was clear he would lose to Tuska did he (rightfully) retreat, as there is no sense in a fight to the death mentality.

10-Dec-2013 17:36:36 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2013 17:39:04 by Nerevarine x

Penny Drakis

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Nerevarine x said :
And true, regret and remorse is only part of redemption, which is why Saradomin did more than apologise and acted upon it to protect the Naragi. Only when it was clear he would lose to Tuska did he (rightfully) retreat, as there is no sense in a fight to the death mentality.

He who kills and runs away, lives to kill another day! Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "
Let there be light.
"
And then there were none .

10-Dec-2013 20:50:12

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