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Resherack
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ffs sliskes master is obviously not zaros/zamorak/saradomin etc. "this will bring them?" (referring to the stone of jas) he doesnt know jack shit about the stone, as he didnt even know that the stone of jas would attract the gods, so no its none of them

18-Sep-2016 04:31:57

Hguoh

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Resherack said :
ffs sliskes master is obviously not zaros/zamorak/saradomin etc. "this will bring them?" (referring to the stone of jas) he doesnt know jack shit about the stone, as he didnt even know that the stone of jas would attract the gods, so no its none of them

You're assuming the voice was referring to the gods when it said 'them.' Yes, Sliske's response seems to point towards this being the case, but (as I pointed out on a different thread quite awhile ago) it could honestly be that Sliske's response was a matter of fact statement whose consequences would bring about the desired outcome.

I mean, Sliske directly states that 'It will be a gathering like no other, a monumental occasion that everyone will yearn to observe.'

The target whom the voice wants to lure in could be anybody with the means and desire to witness or influence such an event.

18-Sep-2016 05:22:33 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2016 05:23:00 by Hguoh

Sepulchre
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[#0MGFV81HT] said :
Sepulchre said :
Sixth Elder seems most likely, but meh... too obvious imo. Only to the dedicated lore people. AKA the only people who matter in this discussion. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

19-Sep-2016 05:51:55

Sepulchre
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Vorago is a boss first, a piece of lore second. Besides, Sliske's tournament has caused more destruction to the anima than anything since Zamorak made the Stone go boom. It's probably not Vorago.
Zamorak would be.. stupid. Not to mention, y'know, DaT.
Zaros would be even stupider, since we JUST got down with Zaros excommunicating him, and Sliske beating the piss out of us after that (defying Zaros's 'protection' of us).
Viggora.. Viggora.. I mean seriously? Why the hell would Sliske even.. No. I don't see how anything aside from "he's in the Shadow Realm, and he's touched the Staff" gives people even an inkling that it's gonna be him.
A Dragonkin wouldn't let Sliske hold the Stone, nor act so patiently with him. None of them trust him, anyway.
Personally, 6th Elder is my theory, as boring an answer as it is.

Also yes, as Hguoh said, 'them' could have many meanings. It could refer to the gods, it could refer to a certain group of gods, it could refer to a single god, a follower of a god, a bystander of note, one of the other participants (Vorago, possibly Death)...

Scary thought, but it COULD also potentially refer to the World Guardian. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

19-Sep-2016 06:02:44

Raleirosen

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Sepulchre said :
Viggora.. Viggora.. I mean seriously? Why the hell would Sliske even.. No. I don't see how anything aside from "he's in the Shadow Realm, and he's touched the Staff" gives people even an inkling that it's gonna be him.
A Dragonkin wouldn't let Sliske hold the Stone, nor act so patiently with him. None of them trust him, anyway.
Viggora would be an awesome twist, if they pulled it off right. You're wrong about the Dragonkin, though; given that Sliske is a Stonetoucher, the Necrosyrtes at least could see the value in working with him to lure False Users.

Sixth Elder would be overwhelmingly lame, by virtue of bringing the most mysterious of the eldritch universe-creating Elders down to the level of conversing/plotting with mortals. Queen of Ashes is the safer bet. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

20-Sep-2016 00:27:47

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Sepulchre said :
Viggora.. Viggora.. I mean seriously? Why the hell would Sliske even.. No. I don't see how anything aside from "he's in the Shadow Realm, and he's touched the Staff" gives people even an inkling that it's gonna be him.

Dude is a soul, trapped in the shadow realm: Sliske is researching the soul extensively.

Dude is a victim of an elder artifact's ability to create links to people: Sliske used the staff to expose and track the dragonkins' link to the stone.

Dude knows the stone exists, but neither really learned much about the power it grants, nor lived long enough to see much of the gods' quarrel over it: the voice questions the stone's use as bait.

Dude loses his sanity due to an extended stay in the Shadow Realm: Dude regains sanity just as we learn Sliske is messing with the Shadow Realm.

Dude trapped in the Shadow Realm somehow finds where Sliske, a master of the Shadow Realm, has hidden the stone and let's Zamorak know: Sliske wants Zamorak to find the stone so as to spice up his games.

As I said earlier, the only thing that doesn't fit is that the voice uses short, to the point sentences, while Viggora doesn't. And even then, you could attribute that to him now actually remembering more of his imprisonment in the Shadow Realm instead of the previous amount of a few minutes.

20-Sep-2016 01:15:10 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2016 03:29:41 by Hguoh

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You're forgetting that this apparent 'master' knows more about the Siphon than he does the Catalyst. And let's take a look at the gods...

Saradomin used the Stone once, and the Crown got him ascended.

Zamorak used the Staff to attack Zaros, and then the Stone three times. He's a big target for the Dragonkin.

Armadyl used the Siphon and another artefact he won't talk about. He's aware of the Stone and knows what happened to Kethsi.

Bandos never had an artefact as far as I know. And neither did Zaros or Seren.

Guthix used the Stone, Staff and Horn, maybe some others. He wasn't a big target for the Dragonkin due to indirect use or drawing small amounts of power at a time.

This means that the master is either the 6th Elder, or an unnamed god who Sliske is also using as part of his deal and is planning to turn over. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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20-Sep-2016 06:49:19

Zulkir

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I don't buy into it being the 6th elder god. Because I think it's already been counted.

My theory is based off of this. During Tennants run in Doctor who, he encountered what we know as "The Beast" Now, The Beast, Or rather actual Satan, was nothing but the body, a useless shell trapped there. But the thing is, the mind escaped, and while it had no physical form, it could easily influence the minds of others and eventually take over a host entirely, happy to leave its useless body behind if it had to.

This just screams Mah. Think about it, Sliske served Zaros because he recognized his superiority. There is only one authority that could ever be higher than Zaros to a Mahjarrat, and that's Mah herself. I mean, she would be if she wasn't just a cosmic mistake acting on instinct. But that's all a mindless shell can do, act on instinct.

It echos what Zaros did afterall, fleeing his then useless body and wait for the perfect chance to regain a physical form, although technically she did it first if this theory is to be believed.

Keep in mind Mah wasn't involved in creation, so she would only have mortal names to go on for the artifacts, being the consciousness of an elder god would likely afford her insight as to what they could do also.

Any thoughts on this?
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20-Sep-2016 14:39:29 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2016 16:34:34 by Zulkir

Hguoh

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Ancient Drew said :
You're forgetting that this apparent 'master' knows more about the Siphon than he does the Catalyst. And let's take a look at the gods...

I forgot nothing

Hguoh said :
Dude is a victim of an elder artifact's (
specifically the Staff
) ability to create links to people: Sliske used the staff to expose and track the dragonkins' link to the stone.

Dude knows the stone exists, but neither really learned much about the power it grants, nor lived long enough to see much of the gods' quarrel over it: the voice questions the stone's use as bait.

20-Sep-2016 16:00:49

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