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Uncle Harper
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Zulkir said :
Everec said :
What if Zaros will actually prove he is the true mastermind by being Sliske's secret master?

When Sliske's master talks he/she/It speaks in very brief "To the point" sentences, Zaros does not.

The Master also refers to the artifacts by their mortal given names, something else Zaros is known to of never done.

I don't think it's Zaros, I don't want it to be him. It wouldn't be much of a reveal if I'm honest.

I really feel its zamorak. I dont think hes sliskes master but more a partner with greater power. If its not Zammy, man I hope its Saradomin. Id love to punch him in his arrogance (face). I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

16-Sep-2016 15:55:18

Lynxlynx
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Uncle Harper said :
Zulkir said :
Everec said :
What if Zaros will actually prove he is the true mastermind by being Sliske's secret master?

When Sliske's master talks he/she/It speaks in very brief "To the point" sentences, Zaros does not.

The Master also refers to the artifacts by their mortal given names, something else Zaros is known to of never done.

I don't think it's Zaros, I don't want it to be him. It wouldn't be much of a reveal if I'm honest.

I really feel its zamorak. I dont think hes sliskes master but more a partner with greater power. If its not Zammy, man I hope its Saradomin. Id love to punch him in his arrogance (face).

But if it's one of those two, then why does it seem like we didn't recognise the masters voice during Kindred Spirits?
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16-Sep-2016 15:59:06

Hguoh

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I'm personally a fan of the theory that the 'master' (not really) is Viggora.

He uses the mortal names of the artifacts.
He has first hand experience with the Staff, and, thank's to the Ghostly Robes miniquest, he also knows of how it can link things together.
Working with Sliske could also explain why he regained his sanity recently (the curse that trapped him in the Shadow Realm and robbed him of his mind came from Zaros, and Sliske is the only one with control of the realm that comes close to rivaling Zaros's).

Honestly, the only bit that doesn't fit so nicely is the mysterious voice's speech patterns. The voice tends to prefer short, to the point sentences, while Viggora does not.

16-Sep-2016 16:16:38 - Last edited on 22-Sep-2016 18:14:42 by Hguoh

Aig123
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Well Seren managed to split herself willingly, and overtime one piece became the Dark Lord.
I think it is definitely within the realm of possibility that had Zaros been fragmented, leading to an evil alter ego, that this new entity could fill the role of Sliske's 'Master'.

16-Sep-2016 16:32:40

Uncle Harper
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Lynxlynx said :
Uncle Harper said :
Zulkir said :
Everec said :
What if Zaros will actually prove he is the true mastermind by being Sliske's secret master?

When Sliske's master talks he/she/It speaks in very brief "To the point" sentences, Zaros does not.

The Master also refers to the artifacts by their mortal given names, something else Zaros is known to of never done.

I don't think it's Zaros, I don't want it to be him. It wouldn't be much of a reveal if I'm honest.

I really feel its zamorak. I dont think hes sliskes master but more a partner with greater power. If its not Zammy, man I hope its Saradomin. Id love to punch him in his arrogance (face).

But if it's one of those two, then why does it seem like we didn't recognise the masters voice during Kindred Spirits?


There are literally thousands of npcs our charactrr has spoken to. If they could distinguish every voice id be amazed seeing how in many quests our not so bright hero cant even remember faces theyd seen before. But lets assume we can. That would eliminate nearly every npc weve met or know of thus far. Leaving only xau who wilson says isnt the mystery voice and the sixth elder whod likely call the artifacts by their true names not mortal names and there the whole thing where the elders will be the 3rd and final pillar of the sixth age i think its too early for them. So all that said, i think its more likely our little dim witted hero simply couldnt distinguish the voice due to memory loss brought on by CTE from slayer tasks. Its someonewe know, someone weve heard speak before. I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

16-Sep-2016 19:57:25

YtHaar-Zuk
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Zulkir said :
We're mortal are we? That's news.

I asked Mod Raven specifically about the piece of our soul yesterday, questioning if we're now useless in the face of gods, because I'd imagine if you saw someone coming your way who'd disrupt your plans you'd rather they be on the other side of the world, so you'd teleport them there.

We've apparently only lost a very small piece of our essence, a chink in our armor instead of a huge chunk missing. We can still stand up to gods we don't like, just slightly less than before.

Now the kicker is, he cryptically said we should wonder who now has that part of our soul, the obvious answer is Sliske. because, well, he's the one who took it. But could he have given it to someone else? Perhaps Nomad for round 3? To his master, perhaps?

If they make me fight Nomad one more time I'm gonna fist fight every jagex employee that had any doing of this quest. Tired of him, i killed him in the latest quest. I he deserves to stay dead, he's nothing but a nousence if he comes back.
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16-Sep-2016 20:50:50

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Uncle Harper said :
Lynxlynx said :
Uncle Harper said :
Zulkir said :
Everec said :
What if Zaros will actually prove he is the true mastermind by being Sliske's secret master?

When Sliske's master talks he/she/It speaks in very brief "To the point" sentences, Zaros does not.

The Master also refers to the artifacts by their mortal given names, something else Zaros is known to of never done.

I don't think it's Zaros, I don't want it to be him. It wouldn't be much of a reveal if I'm honest.

I really feel its zamorak. I dont think hes sliskes master but more a partner with greater power. If its not Zammy, man I hope its Saradomin. Id love to punch him in his arrogance (face).

But if it's one of those two, then why does it seem like we didn't recognise the masters voice during Kindred Spirits?


There are literally thousands of npcs our charactrr has spoken to. If they could distinguish every voice id be amazed seeing how in many quests our not so bright hero cant even remember faces theyd seen before. But lets assume we can. That would eliminate nearly every npc weve met or know of thus far. Leaving only xau who wilson says isnt the mystery voice and the sixth elder whod likely call the artifacts by their true names not mortal names and there the whole thing where the elders will be the 3rd and final pillar of the sixth age i think its too early for them. So all that said, i think its more likely our little dim witted hero simply couldnt distinguish the voice due to memory loss brought on by CTE from slayer tasks. Its someonewe know, someone weve heard speak before.
Zamorak and Saradomin would have pretty unique voices being gods and all... You'd think we'd remember their voices easier than most.
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16-Sep-2016 21:54:49

Mazenh
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Aig123 said :
Well Seren managed to split herself willingly, and overtime one piece became the Dark Lord.
I think it is definitely within the realm of possibility that had Zaros been fragmented, leading to an evil alter ego, that this new entity could fill the role of Sliske's 'Master'.

Hmm, that's interesting to think about.

One of the reasons Seren's memory of Zaros didn't convince me he's totally evil was because he seemed like to me like he was a 'bad guy trying to turn good.' But if that's true, then maybe him losing his evil side wasn't entirely his doing then. Think about this: One of the most surprising things about the dialogue with Zaros was that he said that he did not begrudge him, nor does he claim to want revenge for his betrayal. (Something Zaros/Zamorak's followers and even Zamorak himself believe).

This might be hinted at in November when we get the chance to see the moment when Zamorak killed Zaros, as well as see how the two react when confronted with the other.

17-Sep-2016 21:50:04

Mazenh
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Also, since we're on the topic of who Sliske's 'master' is, I'll throw my own hat into the ring and say that I seriously think it's
Vorago
.

Here's what we know so far that leads me to this:

Sliske is gathering the gods for something that his master wants, and Vorago hold no love for the gods.

Sliske is seen talking with Vorago after he kills Tuska, and while Sliske claims that he's inviting Vorago to his game, we never actually hear what the two said to each other.

The dialogue of the mysterious voice in Kindred Spirits has a text color of
orange,
which is the same as Vorago's colors and challenge message in the chat box.

Many people think that he's Xau-Tac, but Mod Wilson has confirmed back in May that it is NOT.

The mysterious voice obviously has knowledge of the Elder Artifacts and how manipulate anima, and Vorago is 'of the Earth,' giving him the capacity to maybe know this.

The plan the two came up with seems to have happened in the 5th age, which is also around the time Vorago reawakened.

And lastly, Sliske is probably only working with this person to betray him in the end.

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It could just be a coincidence that all these things happened to be in this way, but I can't find as much evidence to support another claim.

17-Sep-2016 22:06:33

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