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Big Storms

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Umm it might just be me, but aren't you misinterpreting that quote?

Its words carry significantly more weight.

If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’s fist.


Mod Wilson refers to Xau-Tak's words being the ones having more gravity than those spoken to Sliske at that time of Kindred Spirits.

That being said, we know Jas talked to us (the World Guardian) by creating entities whose sole purpose was to speak one of his words at a time, just to shield us from his actual speech. It is perfectly reasonable (likely even) that Jas communicated with Sliske using the same method.
That means we do not know what gravity the true speech of Jas has, nor how it relates to Xau-Tak.

All we know is that Xau-Tak's speech is indeed capable of rendering a near god level Mahjarrat insane, something we have not seen from any of the non elder gods. Thus putting its power at the same level as elder gods is not unreasonable; at least it is above the non-elder gods we know, unless the gravity of the speech of Xau-Tak stands separate from its power.

I like the idea that Xau-Tak is an (elder) remnant of the previous revision, or something that exists even on a different plane of existence, outside of the space and time which confine the other Elder Gods.
This would explain why the Dragonkin tried to summon it. Perhaps they intended to make a deal with it to remove their curse to the Stone of Jas. After all, Xau-Tak would have equal or more power than the elder gods, making him capable of accomplishing such a feat. If we then try to decipher what happened according to the murals, things did not go as expected: likely the Dragonkin's information about Xau-Tak was incomplete, not knowing its chaotic properties.
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21-Mar-2018 14:56:07

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On a different note, we know what happened to the Mwanu after they were influenced by Xau-Tak: they became the Horrors we see roaming Moss le Harmless these days (whereas other, possibly further mutated variants are mentioned in the journals).

So... Horror Dragonkin anyone? =p
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21-Mar-2018 15:01:45

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Wahisietel said :
--References & Notes--

A list of all the content that Xau-Tak has been referenced in, to my knowledge. See my old thread here and my notes below for more detail on the references, although note the thread is somewhat outdated as we didn't know they were references to Xau-Tak at the time it was written.

Rum Deal - October 2005 - Rabid Jack's temple, Karamthulhu
Mos Le'Harmless - February 2006 - Pillar on Mos Le'Harmless
Rag and Bone Man - April 2006 - Skeletal Horror pt 1
Mos Le'Harmless Expansion - July 2006 - Jungle/Cave horrors, Black mask, Harmless caves, Stone tablet
Olaf's Quest - April 2007 - Cursed treasure
The Great Brain Robbery - March 2007 - Mi-Gor references "Down Below"
Summoning - January 2008 - Karamthulhu overlord
Rocking Out - June 2008 - Ex-ex parrot
Fur 'n' Seek - August 2009 - Skeletal Horror pt 2
A Clockwork Syringe - March 2011 - Strange black rocks
Lore Livestream - November 2012 - Rabid Jack said to be connected to the Underwater City
Meet the Partner - Again - December 2012 - Flying sea gods
Battle of Lumbridge - July 2013 - Sea gods
Hero's Welcome - June 2015 - Xau-Tak first named
The Light Within - August 2015 - Xau-Tak dream
Prifddinas Waterfall fishing - September 2015 - "Karamthulhu Pete" mentioned, Underwater City referenced
Nomad's Elegy - February 2016 - ***-Tak mentioned by a cave goblin
Kindred Spirits - May 2016 - Death at Sea loredump.


Wahisietel, Can you update this post to reflect Sliske's mention of XT at the end of SE
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21-Mar-2018 15:19:29

Wahisietel
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I do not believe that is the quote I was referring to. It was more explicit, and probably on a thread that was eaten by chewy.

I hope to update the thread at some point, but I am a lazy person.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

21-Mar-2018 18:17:15 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2018 18:17:50 by Wahisietel

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Hguoh said :
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Or perhaps it could have had Guthix been better at wielding it...who knows?


He hit it hard enough to shatter Renmark. He broke a plane and the corruption just went on its merry way across the universe. Even if we consider that the blade wasn't being wielded at its full power, surviving a blow strong enough to break a plane indicates some amazing survivability.


I was thinking Guthix simply missed. He swung at the corruption on the planet, missed, and hit the planet. Had he been more skilled, he might have hit the corruption.

Big Storms said :
Umm it might just be me, but aren't you misinterpreting that quote?

Its words carry significantly more weight.

If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’s fist.


Mod Wilson refers to Xau-Tak's words being the ones having more gravity than those spoken to Sliske at that time of Kindred Spirits.



Huh - I took it as the "it" that's words carry more wight was the (speaker) of the Mysterious voice - who we later found out to be Jas.

Though given the following paragraph, yours does seem a bit more likely.

Now was Mod Wilson joking? Assuming he wasn't, I would probably take t to mean that Xau-Tac is just so incomprehensible it drives people to insanity -which seems likely.

The Elder's true voices seem powerful enough to just kill us outright.

The idea that Xau-Tac is some out-of universe eldritch being seems more and more likely to me. What (if any) it's relationship to the Elder Gods is I guess remains to be seen.

22-Mar-2018 05:11:09

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Honestly, the only way I can think of to have Xau-Tak fit in our universe as this lovecraftian eldritch horror god that they're shooting for, is for him to be on a similar or greater level than the elder gods. "We call it being a hero"
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22-Mar-2018 05:52:18

Uncle Harper
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Pieces of hate Xau-Tak things. Heres a list of all xau tak things i found in pieces of hate. Let me know if I missed any. (These are new things so i wont include stuff like black stones.)

- Wilson the rat. Named after Mod Wilson I assume, we have a small interesting amount of dialogue with him where we suddenly know his name as if it is whispered to us. He smiles and replies "meow." ??? Weird.

"It knows my name. It knows your name as well."

- Cosmic Kitten (Yes it exists! There are four lights!) The kitten gives us vague responses to questions that usually forshadow immediate future events. It ultimately informa us that it is nor a kitten and that the player is not a human but that is irrelevant. Before asking a familiar line "Do you really think you can save them?" No one present save the player seems to witness the kitten. Curiously enough, Bill and Brass hand mention seeing monsters below the waves. Swimming horrors, yet the player doesnt. My theory, we use kittens to cope as the player so we see the horrors as the kitten while others see it for what it really is.

- Crab attack Cats. While the rum pumped crabs attack the zombies of the distillery, we are saved from the violence with images of cats playing and a voice telling us its ok because zombies are bad. Things then take a dark turn. The voice says were bad too. It says no amount of kitten images will save you from MY horror. And finally all 3 cats look directly at the screen and say "Do you really think you can save them, player?"

- Black hand. A giant hand comes from the portal of another world and attacks. It effects player sanity and sings a song. "It sang to us telling us to go beneath the waves."

- The murals. I posted a theory on these in another forum but they depict a previously unknow interaction between the Dragonkin and the black stone hands.

- Madame Shih took an old ancient chest from beneath the waves with her. With a blank gaze in her eyes as she departed.
I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

22-Mar-2018 17:30:24

Uncle Harper
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Half Centaur said :
Honestly, the only way I can think of to have Xau-Tak fit in our universe as this lovecraftian eldritch horror god that they're shooting for, is for him to be on a similar or greater level than the elder gods.


Ive been saying this for awhile now but hes not exactly an elder hes more like an anti-elder god. The ones that we "really think we can save" might be the actual elder gods hes plotting against. Hes the perfect foil for them and will offer himself as an escape from their destructive patterns. Like he seems to whisper to everyone else.
I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

22-Mar-2018 17:32:26

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Uncle Harper said :
Half Centaur said :
Honestly, the only way I can think of to have Xau-Tak fit in our universe as this lovecraftian eldritch horror god that they're shooting for, is for him to be on a similar or greater level than the elder gods.


Ive been saying this for awhile now but hes not exactly an elder hes more like an anti-elder god. The ones that we "really think we can save" might be the actual elder gods hes plotting against. Hes the perfect foil for them and will offer himself as an escape from their destructive patterns. Like he seems to whisper to everyone else.


He'd have to be on a similar level to the Elders right? Why would he spend time gathering/converting/manipulating mortals like the Mwanu when they can do nothing to the Elders anyway. He'd have to deal with the Elders himself, why bother with distractions.

Also, why the 'problem' with us, it sounds like he knows us and considers us a problem, if he is on a power level similar to Elders, he could just get rid of us or anyone with ease.

22-Mar-2018 18:48:49 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2018 18:49:59 by Danchu

Wahisietel
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I like to think that the laws of this universe do not necessarily apply to Xau-Tak. Since the Elder Gods more or less ARE the laws of the universe, for that reason I am inclined to think Xau-Tak is not one of them. At least, not one of OUR elder gods. It is for that reason that it cannot be classified by the tier system, and why it is capable of breaking the fourth wall.

Trying to comprehend Xau-Tak's goals are an exercise in futility.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

22-Mar-2018 19:37:23 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2018 19:40:13 by Wahisietel

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