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Jan

2021

AesirWarrior

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Wahisietel said :
Bandos - He wasn't on Gielinor yet.

Are you sure? We know from The History of The Goblins on the website that he arrived in the second age (I believe Mod John A said something similar in a q&a as well). His memories claim he sensed battle on Gielinor, but there were plenty of wars in the second age. Gods fighting wasn't exclusive to the third age. -

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11-Jul-2016 18:04:55

Oct

2005

Wahisietel

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Could've sworn that it was in the God Wars, but you're correct - Bandos arrived in the Second Age. So we can't rule him out.

That said... Bandos sealing Xau-Tak away instead of waging war against it would be out of character. Especially considering Bandos would probably be the god with the biggest chance of defeating Xau-Tak. He was (at the time) one of the most powerful gods on Gielinor, and possessed at least two aquatic races (Mogres and Sea trolls).

That being said... I guess it's possible that Xau-Tak and Bandos DID actually wage war against one another, and Xau-Tak being sealed in the underwater city was just the end result. But what events could lead to that happening?

Consider this: What if Bandos actually successfully managed to defeat Xau-Tak? But refusing to be defeated, Xau-Tak destroyed the area in an act of rage, and hid in the Underwater City to recover its power?

I dunno. Just throwing ideas out there. But the more I think about it the more I think that Xau-Tak and Bandos probably had SOME kind of encounter in the past. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

11-Jul-2016 21:35:34 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2016 21:36:02 by Wahisietel

Dec

2023

Cthris

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Bandos quite possibly could have been in the general vicinity. It was never really explained how the Cyclopes ended up in the Eastern Lands. It's not impossible that Bandos started his campaign in the area and the Cyclopes stayed behind for some reason.

And Xau Tak's dominion is kind of on the way to the Eastern Lands. So their chance of meeting is not impossible.

Anyways, something has been bothering me for awhile. Why does everyone seem to assume that Xay Tak is this super mega powerful God? Like what exactly has he done? Raised an army of undead. Pretty sure a talented necromancer can do that. He mind controled some mortals to go crazy. Pretty sure that's like a tier 5-6 power. Caused a cave goblin ghost to warn us/or he just mind controled us into thinking a cave goblin was threatening us (the later is more likely since rhe former would require Xua mind controlling the goblin and then mind wiping everyone after, which would be pointless.) again, tier 6 power.

Now I get that everyone wants a mega powerful entity of evil incarnate but don't get your hopes up. He hasn't done anything besides weirdly knowing our name in the second age that is out of the ordinary of a low tier God.

Heck I wouldn't be surprised if he was just a Demi God. This would explain why he wasn't banished by guthix, and how he can mess with our minds disputed our blessing.

11-Jul-2016 21:45:24 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2016 21:59:09 by Cthris

Dec

2020

Sepulchre

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It depends what you mean by "super mega powerful God."
If you pay attention to what Wilson says, Xau-Taks power would have to be great. I hate repeating myself, but I don't think Xau-Tak is a "god" at all, in the sense we're used to. No Elder gods, no Elder Artifacts, no other young gods. Just a being with great amounts of power.
Mortal? Perhaps so, though depending on how far into the C'thulhu mythos we delve here, he could arguably be a totally different kind of deity than anything we know of.

One thing you seem to be overlooking is the cave goblin. Yes, Amascut has shown her ability in the past to control living beings. What you're forgetting is that we were in the afterlife. In order to be able to influence someone there, Xau-Tak is either very powerful or my theory of him being the Reaper (Harold) or Soul Guide (Icthlarin) of another world is correct. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

12-Jul-2016 05:45:00

Dec

2020

Aterivus

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Cthris said :
Anyways, something has been bothering me for awhile. Why does everyone seem to assume that Xay Tak is this super mega powerful God?

It most likely has to do with his description of going to other worlds and leaving behind "corpse-oceans" in his wake. The imagery such a description conjures is one of a powerful entity capable of wiping-out the life on any world it wants. At the very least it's certainly a creepy thought to envision something leaving behind so many dead bodies it practically looks like an ocean.

On top of that, there's the C*hulu overtones with being a tendril/tentacle'd Lovecraftian Horror who employs mind-games, power over the dead, and horror tactics with those who cross its path. Typically, the C*hulu/Lovecraftian Horror brand of entity also comes bearing a boatload of otherworldly power. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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12-Jul-2016 06:02:45

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2023

Cthris

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Sepulchre said :

If you pay attention to what Wilson says, Xau-Taks power would have to be great.
Oh really? What exactly did Mod Wilson say exactly that proves that Xua-Tak would have lots of power. The closest thing I found is this.

"If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’* fist."

Which actually doesn't mean much.I'll explain why:

Do you know much about bats? Bats are extremely similar to humans in many way. They have flesh, blood, hair, etc. are warm blooded, and even have similar bone structures, admittedly pretty tiny ones though. But bats have one major difference. They have an extra sense, eco-location. This requires a complex brain structure that is different from humans. While we have done some work in real life at trying to process information about language and memories stored within the brain, it would be impossible for us to do so on bats, simply because every memory would be influenced by a totally alien sense that would give data totally that is non-comprehensible to humans.

In order for a human to comprehend both human, and bat experiences and memories, they certainly would need a brain with a mass so heavy that it would shrink to the size of a small child's fist. The same would apply for anything being that would require the capacity to understand two thought processes that would be completely alien to one another.

(As a sidenote, doesn't it appear that the cave horrors seem to be using eco-location)

So you see, Mod Wilson wasn't necessarily saying Xua-Tak was so powerful that his mere thoughts would overwelm us, but could possibly be just saying that he just has an alien way of thinking, and communicates with his followers in a way only they can understand.

12-Jul-2016 11:11:14

Dec

2020

Sepulchre

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*waves hand* That's not the quote you're looking for. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

12-Jul-2016 11:19:51 - Last edited on 12-Jul-2016 11:20:04 by Sepulchre

Dec

2023

Cthris

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Sepulchre said :

One thing you seem to be overlooking is the cave goblin.
Ironically, it appears you are the one who is overlooking the cave goblin. I specifically made a comment about that cave goblin in my last post.

But a few points before I repeat myself:

1) "In order to be able to influence someone there, Xau-Tak is either very powerful...."I'm pretty sure it was never stated that influencing/controlling people in the underworld is any harder than influencing/controlling people in the land of the living. I'm not saying whether or not it is, just that in order for one to make a statement on the matter, one would have to use unfounded dogma.

2) The underworld doesn't have a very good track record of keeping living people out. I'm pretty sure in one day, Nomad, The New Order of Ascension, and Sliske walked right into the underworld, so it probably isn't that hard to get in, or on that day it just wasn't that hard, either way it doesn't prove Xau-Tak is anything special, for all we know he just entered in when Death left the doors open. Its not like we have seen him do something similar.

3) I did actually suggest that Xau-Tak is a tier 6, which would be what Iccy and Amascut are. Which would make our theories compatible....

Anyways, to repeat myself.

Xua-Tak probably wasn't controlling the cave goblin. It is more likely he was influencing our own thoughts, like he has shown the ability to do before. Controlling the cave goblin would require 1) Controlling the cave goblin 2) Forcing it to speak 3) Wiping the mind of the cave goblin, and Zanik and the rest of the cave goblins. That is a lot of steps, and the third step isn't even required. Influencing our thinking would be far less complex.

12-Jul-2016 11:24:24

Dec

2023

Cthris

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Sepulchre said :
*waves hand* That's not the quote you're looking for.

Then post it

12-Jul-2016 11:24:42

Dec

2023

Cthris

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Aterivus said :
Cthris said :
Anyways, something has been bothering me for awhile. Why does everyone seem to assume that Xay Tak is this super mega powerful God?

It most likely has to do with his description of going to other worlds and leaving behind "corpse-oceans" in his wake. The imagery such a description conjures is one of a powerful entity capable of wiping-out the life on any world it wants. At the very least it's certainly a creepy thought to envision something leaving behind so many dead bodies it practically looks like an ocean.
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Well, see the Slug queen has been said to destroy worlds, presumably by infecting everyone and leaving behind billions of drones or perhaps she takes her slugs with her, leaving behind all the corpses of the hosts, which would probably look like a sea of bodies, so it's not like you got to be a god to do that.

If Xua-Tak was just a tier 6, it would certainly explain why V could square off with him... or at least underestimate him.

12-Jul-2016 11:28:09 - Last edited on 12-Jul-2016 11:31:40 by Cthris

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