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Jakir

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Hguoh said :
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The extremely high probability of Amascut running the slayer masters is the accumulation of numerous pieces of circumstantial evidence:
1) Duradel did not worship her/show obvious signs of loyalty to her.
2) Duradel upset the secret leader.
3) Amascut is disguised as a slayer master.
4) The newly appointed slayer master is a follower of Amascut and it makes sense if Duradel upset the leader they would replace him with someone more accommodating/loyal.
5) Why would Amascut go undercover as a slayer master if not to secretly lead them? Perhaps to gather information on her rivals? Death or Icthlarin would also be good picks to lead them except we know both of them (and their relationship to souls passing through the underworld/boss slayer) well enough that they logically would have told us if they were leading the slayer masters. Other alternatives include organizations like the Guardians of Armadyl, the order of the Talon, the Temple knights, ect and we all work/have worked closely enough with them in the past that they would have told us.

So clearly Amascut is participating for more than laughs and with 99.9% certainty is running the show.

The cave horrors are followers of Xau and happen to drop a mask which gives incredible powerups when fighting slayer tasks (missions from Amascut/those in her service (knowingly or not)) and can even be upgraded by slayer masters.

So either Xau is working with Amascut or is doing something so related to her the mechanics of one of his relics react with what she is doing. I feel this relation is worth noting because while it could just be a relationship formed by the similar mechanics they both use as Gods it could also hint at an interesting alliance between "evil" Gods, or even at certain goals of Amascut like potentially reviving Tumeken.

Either way I find it very interesting and thought it was worth sharing because it gives us a lot of awesome dark lore to ponder.

18-Nov-2015 21:58:05 - Last edited on 18-Nov-2015 22:04:30 by Jakir

Wahisietel
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Not going to bother arguing about the whole Amascut being the leader of the Slayer Masters thing, since it doesn't make any sense (especially when you remember Chaeldar is a thing).

But putting that aside, it's a pretty big leap to go from "Amascut assigns monsters that follow Xau-Tak" to "Amascut is in cahoots with Xau-Tak". If anything the opposite is implied. And if you're gonna use the fact that the Black mask is used to create the slayer helm as evidence, then does that mean Amascut is working with Kerapac, since the Focus sight and Hexcrest are also used to creature the helm?

Also since it was mentioned previously in the thread, the black stone mentioned by Honovi was in all likelihood just the pieces of the ritual marker. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

18-Nov-2015 22:24:49

Hguoh

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Jakir said :
The cave horrors are followers of Xau and happen to drop a mask which gives incredible powerups when fighting slayer tasks (missions from Amascut/those in her service (knowingly or not)) and can even be upgraded by slayer masters.

So either Xau is working with Amascut or is doing something so related to her the mechanics of one of his relics react with what she is doing. I feel this relation is worth noting because while it could just be a relationship formed by the similar mechanics they both use as Gods it could also hint at an interesting alliance between "evil" Gods, or even at certain goals of Amascut like potentially reviving Tumeken.

Either way I find it very interesting and thought it was worth sharing because it gives us a lot of awesome dark lore to ponder.

I'm not arguing the Amascut leads the slayer master point. I'm arguing the Xau and Amascut must be in cahoots point.

I mean, it's just not a sound conclusion. For example, a while back I got a Zamorak coif from a clue scroll. I started using the coif because I couldn't afford a royal coif (was prior to the FoG changes) and didn't have the stats for Armadyl gear. By your logic, because the coif offered very useful benefits to my ability to range, my character must worship or be in cahoots with Zamorak.

That's simply not the case, of course. I'm just making good use of one of Zamorak's old toys that he left behind and I found.

19-Nov-2015 11:01:59 - Last edited on 19-Nov-2015 11:02:44 by Hguoh

Jakir

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Wahisietel said :
(especially when you remember Chaeldar is a thing).

I don't see your point.

Wahisietel said :
"Amascut assigns monsters that follow Xau-Tak".

You've misunderstood my point. What I said was that the black mask gives an impressive boost against monsters Amascut/those working under her (knowingly or not) assigns. The fact that followers of Xau happen to drop an item that makes whatever Amascut's goal is much easier to accomplish and literally does nothing when not working on a specific task for Amascut clearly shows that something is going on between them.

@Hguoh The difference, as I've already said is that the black mask literally does nothing when not on a slayer task. So to make this function with your metaphor it would be like if the Zamorak Coif only had stats when fighting rival factions. Also you would need to have made the coif and designed it to only work on factions that Zamorak wants defeated as the cave horrors probably make these masks or at least obtain them in some manner.

Which is why I said it was "highly likely" that something was going on between Xau and Amascut. It is possible slayer tasks are not assigned at random as slayer masters say something like "there are a lot of these monsters help us thin their numbers" so Amascut may simply be focusing on monsters with abundant life force and the black mask could also be feeding off them by coincidence or whatever the reason the tasks are assigned the mask could simply be working off the same mechanic.

But I honestly just find that idea less interesting; although I did account for it. I really want to see a divine necromancy-soul thieving alliance to pull off some epic god tier mayhem.

19-Nov-2015 21:08:02 - Last edited on 19-Nov-2015 21:13:49 by Jakir

Cthris
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Hey, you know dragon slaying gloves from Fist of Guthix are another item that do nothing off task, but provide boost when on tasks. I do not know about you, but I do not think Guthix or his followers are working for/with/have any connection with amascut or the leader of the slayer masters.

Wah's point about hexcrest and future sight are fair too, I don't believe that even though we can only get them while on task and they grant task bonuses that they indicate any connection between the dragonkin and amascut.


I think your looking too much into simple coincidences.

Also if Amascut was the slayer master leader that wouldn't make sense. During the Halloween event, tuskas corpse released thousands of consumed souls, including souls of slayer masters, which means that there are slayer masters on other worlds. Amascut however has been confined to the desert for thousands of years so she couldn't possibly be leading them.

Personally I think she is Kurdels mother and she used her influence to help Durdel get his slayer position, and was able to again use her influence to replace him. But I don't think she is the actual leader, just a very influential person who can get you what you want, at the cost of having to obey her.

19-Nov-2015 21:28:08

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Hi there. Just a quick post to try and clear something up. Obviously I can't go into spoilers, but all the Xau-Tak references I have been working into the game have been in content I have worked on as a major contributor, as other posters have noticed. Or not noticed, as the case may be. ;) In any case, I didn't work on the slayer helmets, core slayer skill or desert quests. So the Amascut storyline is, as it stands, not connected to Xau-Tak.

Keep looking though, you've not found all the clues yet!

20-Nov-2015 09:51:06

Hguoh

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Thanks for the clarification, Mod Wilson.

@ Wolfie

That still doesn't add up logically. If I find a black mask and use it on my slayer assignments, that doesn't mean I'm working with Xau or Amascut. All it means is that I found something that conveniently suits my needs and chose to use it.

I mean, as Wahi pointed out, the hex crest and focus sight both accomplish very similar things to the mask, but that doesn't mean Kerapac is in league with Amascut. And as Kastor pointed out, some of the rewards from FoG help with Slayer, but we know Guthix wouldn't work with any other god, let alone Amascut.

Plus, it really doesn't help your point that the Slayer helm's boosts function on Raptor tasks, and its rather unlikely that he serves anybody but him/herself.

20-Nov-2015 10:24:31

Wahisietel
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Clearly we must scour Let Them Eat Pie for references to Xau-Tak. Maybe the pie represents Xau-Tak's evil, and what happens Rolo represents what Xau-Tak does to those who oppose it.

But more seriously I'd imagine there are some references in the Summoning skill we haven't found. There's tons of dialogue there, surely the Ex-ex-parrot can't be the only reference.

Maybe the Karamthulhu overlord (or Karamthulhu Pete as the Hermit crab calls it) is related? It claims to be a god, and has tentacles... You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

20-Nov-2015 12:29:05

Ren_Derek

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I know Broken Home is popularly theorized to be heavy in the Zarosian / Mahjarrat storylines, but there is a pretty big tentacled mass in this home that just so happens to be designed by our own Mod Wilson...

Is it possible that everything went insane under influence by Xau-Tak, or maybe it's avatar, the Skeletal Horror, given it's right across the street...
The Empty Lord awakens.

20-Nov-2015 12:36:44

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