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Jakir

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Wahisietel said :
I doubt the monkeys are relevant. Ninja monkeys were only mentioned in the Pirate quest pitch because, you know, Pirates vs Ninjas.

If there is a connection between Amascut and Xau (And given all the circumstantial evidence I would say that is incredibly likely) then the involvement of the monkeys would also be very likely. Amascut imprisoned or attempted to imprison all the desert demi-gods (once again it would make sense for her to contain them if they were parts of Tumeken and she wanted to revive him) including Apmeken the demigod in the form of a monkey with a desert monkey colony of followers, which following the chimp ice miniquest is officially linked to Ape Atoll.

Naturally it makes sense that a small island would be involved against a God terrorizing the seas. It may also explain what the monkey order from Boric & Doric's post quest tasks was intended to be used for.

14-Nov-2015 23:07:18

Wahisietel
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Yeah I fail to see how Amascut has anything to do with Xau-Tak. Most of the things you used to come to that conclusion are either faulty or big leaps of logic.

For one, Amascut is not the leader of the Slayer Masters, and has no more connection to Xau-Tak than any of the others do. Besides assigning Cave horrors, anyway... which Chaeldar also does so it's a moot point. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

15-Nov-2015 18:45:53

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I've been trying to ignore how bad Wolfe's lore fails are but thank you for being direct. Being a goddess of the underworld doesn't automatically associate you with everything death related. (this is undeath very different)

15-Nov-2015 19:35:32

Jakir

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Amascut is Sumona who secretly leads the slayer masters as is confirmed by dialogue from Lapalok who mentions the Devourer is his master (it is not just his own personal master either as Duradel mentions to gain his position he upset the leader of the Slayer masters at a specific location during wgs)...

The connection between the black mask being related to Xau and only offering tremendous powerups on creatures assigned by agents of Amascut makes a relationship between them almost impossible to be merely coincidental. And clearly Amascut is not just leading the slayer masters for lulz so what possible use could the Devourer of souls have for drastically increasing the amount of souls in circulation if not to devour them and increase her strength? The logic involved is all so very basic I find it impossible to believe anyone would have a hard time following it.

Wekill don't turn this into a personal attack. Keep things civil lest your actions get posts with decent information in them hidden because you can't handle acting like a big boy and having a reasonable debate.

As for what little you did manage to say that was on topic: Amascut the former protector of dead bodies and current devourer of souls has clear and obvious relation to the reanimation of corpses and alternative paths souls may take after death. It relates to literally everything about her...

15-Nov-2015 23:13:00 - Last edited on 15-Nov-2015 23:26:34 by Jakir

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Considering how Do No Evil featured the monkeys from Ape Atoll, Amascut would be sooner connected to the Gnome series than the Pirate series, and even then, that's a very loose connection that I doubt is intended to be much of a factor for either series.

Jakir said :
Amascut is Sumona who secretly leads the slayer masters as is confirmed by dialogue from Lapalok who mentions the Devourer is his master (it is not just his own personal master either as Duradel mentions to gain his position he upset the leader of the Slayer masters at a specific location during wgs)...

I looked over the WGS transcript and… where does he say this? If anything Lapalok disproves this theory.

Player: So, you're here instead of Duradel?
Lapalok: I am here to replace him, yes, to send both you and he on the path of destruction.
Player: That's rather a stern way of thinking. I'm curious though, how did you get the job? I was quite used to Duradel.
Lapalok: His time is over, for now. The time of the Devourer approaches. If you slay in her name, your fate will be less harsh.

He's sending Duradel on the path of destruction, and he notes that, with Duradel's time over, Amascut's time approaches, suggesting that Duradel and Amascut's influences do not coincide. If anything, he's different from Duradel because he follows Amascut, while Duradel did not.

16-Nov-2015 16:23:28

Jakir

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Wahisietel said :
Amascut is Sumona and Lapalok follows Amascut, yeah. The other slayer masters don't.

If they don't then how do you explain her appointing a new slayer master after wgs? They might not know it is her that is in charge but she is clearly calling the shots. It is extremely obvious.

Or are you trying to say there is a hidden goddess that devours souls on the team of slayer masters responsible for a drastic increase in the number of souls in circulation, and she isn't the secret leader of the organization, and the strongest slayer master at the time just happened to worship her? At a certain point the circumstantial evidence becomes so abundant that you would need to be deliberately in denial to avoid recognizing the connections.

Kemtros said :
I looked over the WGS transcript and… where does he say this?

When you have him on the team but before you set out. The dialogue is only available in a very specific spot, very easy to miss.

16-Nov-2015 20:31:03 - Last edited on 16-Nov-2015 20:35:55 by Jakir

Wahisietel
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I'm the one that wrote the WGS transcript. Duradel doesn't worship Amascut, Lapalok makes that clear.

Either way this discussion is extremely off-topic. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

17-Nov-2015 13:58:54

Jakir

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I never said Duradel worshiped Amascut, I said he worked for her (and evidently not favorably because he claims to have taken a shortcut to get to his current standing that upset her.)

And it is on the topic of Amascut's relation to Xau. You're free to believe otherwise but discussing how Xau is related to things in a thread about the things Xau could be related to is entirely on topic. Amascut running the slayer masters is relevant to that because it links Amascut to the black mask which is linked to Xau and raises the question of why that alliance/relationship exists and leads to speculation about what they could offer each other which in turn suggests things about Amascut's quest to restore Tumeken.

17-Nov-2015 21:10:31

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Um Wolfie, I just checked the transcript of WGS and Duradel says that he, 'took some shortcuts and trod on some very important toes.' Nowhere does he mention a leader of the slayer masters. Plus, Lapalock only mentions worshipping Amascut, not being appointed by her.

That being said, I think you have a pretty good chance of being right in this case. However, I fail to see how it substantially links her to Xau. All things considered, you don't need to know somebody personally in order to start playing with the toys they left behind. You just need to find where the toys were left.

17-Nov-2015 22:50:51 - Last edited on 17-Nov-2015 22:53:33 by Hguoh

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