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Wahisietel
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Hguoh said :
Keep in mind, the Arc is rather isolated from godly influence due to an anti-god barrier over all of Wushanko originating from Kami-shima. Unless Xau has non-dead things working under him (think: cult) neither his influence nor anything sustained by his magic (anything Xau personally raised from the dead) should be able to even enter the Wushanko Isles.
The Memory is proof that low-tier divine beings are able to enter Wushanko with no issues, and we know from the Horn that godly artefacts are also allowed in.

Anyway, I was mainly thinking that Cora could have found an artefact or something at the nearby Cursed Archipelago to the north-west. From what we've seen, her necromantic skill seemingly rivals that of the Mahjarrat, which is pretty impressive, and probably not something a human would be capable of without divine assistance.

Higgs mentioning moaning after the miniquest is due to her dialogue being buggy - what should be her post-miniquest dialogue is currently displayed during it, and vice-versa. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

11-Oct-2016 20:01:41

Hguoh

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Wahisietel said :
Hguoh said :
Keep in mind, the Arc is rather isolated from godly influence due to an anti-god barrier over all of Wushanko originating from Kami-shima. Unless Xau has non-dead things working under him (think: cult) neither his influence nor anything sustained by his magic (anything Xau personally raised from the dead) should be able to even enter the Wushanko Isles.
The Memory is proof that low-tier divine beings are able to enter Wushanko with no issues, and we know from the Horn that godly artefacts are also allowed in.

Anyway, I was mainly thinking that Cora could have found an artefact or something at the nearby Cursed Archipelago to the north-west. From what we've seen, her necromantic skill seemingly rivals that of the Mahjarrat, which is pretty impressive, and probably not something a human would be capable of without divine assistance.

Higgs mentioning moaning after the miniquest is due to her dialogue being buggy - what should be her post-miniquest dialogue is currently displayed during it, and vice-versa.

Eh, the Memory is also identified as a Kami by sirens. This would indicate, based on our current understanding of the term, that the Memory is more a construct of anima, like Wushanko's monsters and the ba/orokami than she is anything divine. Granted, this opens up the possibility of things empowered or sustained by some small amount of Xau's power being active in the area, but it does kind of inhibit Xau's typical possess people to say creepy stuff schtick.

12-Oct-2016 03:40:23

Wahisietel
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Hguoh said :
Wahisietel said :
Hguoh said :
Keep in mind, the Arc is rather isolated from godly influence due to an anti-god barrier over all of Wushanko originating from Kami-shima. Unless Xau has non-dead things working under him (think: cult) neither his influence nor anything sustained by his magic (anything Xau personally raised from the dead) should be able to even enter the Wushanko Isles.
The Memory is proof that low-tier divine beings are able to enter Wushanko with no issues, and we know from the Horn that godly artefacts are also allowed in.

Anyway, I was mainly thinking that Cora could have found an artefact or something at the nearby Cursed Archipelago to the north-west. From what we've seen, her necromantic skill seemingly rivals that of the Mahjarrat, which is pretty impressive, and probably not something a human would be capable of without divine assistance.

Higgs mentioning moaning after the miniquest is due to her dialogue being buggy - what should be her post-miniquest dialogue is currently displayed during it, and vice-versa.

Eh, the Memory is also identified as a Kami by sirens. This would indicate, based on our current understanding of the term, that the Memory is more a construct of anima, like Wushanko's monsters and the ba/orokami than she is anything divine. Granted, this opens up the possibility of things empowered or sustained by some small amount of Xau's power being active in the area, but it does kind of inhibit Xau's typical possess people to say creepy stuff schtick.

That's because Anima and GodJuice are pretty much the same thing, especially in the case of Guthix, who bolstered his own power with Anima. And the Skeletal Horror is also implied to have "tapped into the world's lifeforce", so it's likely that Xau-Tak could do something similar. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

12-Oct-2016 15:32:20

Zulkir

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I highly doubt the edicts, or any form of divine barrier could block out "Items" with divine power.

Kami also isn't a divine being in the sense of a god, she is a being of divine energy, but not an ascended mortal. I understand the confusion with the similar definitions, but she's no god. Ergo no ban.

Xau-Tak likely has nothing to do with the east plot wise, at least not yet anyway who knows? but since you were convinced the Harbinger had something to do with him, yet not even the most subtle hint to even suggest that. Fact is like Sliske, while you could theoretically connect things we see to be his doing, sometimes it just isn't the case. He isn't behind everything.

Necromancy is a branch of magic that humans are capable of learning without the aid of gods, (Although we haven't learned it yet, something I demand change eventually) there's no reason to think that the conclusion is any other than she's simply well taught in it through her own means.

Don't get me wrong, I love the subtle Xau-Tak content and hope by next year we see something more of him, but let's not frame him for something he didn't do.
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15-Oct-2016 15:53:11 - Last edited on 15-Oct-2016 18:07:29 by Zulkir

Wahisietel
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Well, when Jagex teased a Zombie pirate ship as the villain of Batch 2, Xau-Tak speculation was inevitable. And in the absence of any in-game stuff, Xau-Tak is an easy way to explain how Captain Cora has necromantic ability rivalling Zemouregal and Enakhra :P . You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

16-Oct-2016 16:39:10

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Nebby Cosmog said :
Cora is already married to Captain George "Mr. Gully" Gullivan.

Nice name.


Man, I was making an ironman to take advantage of the deal, and I used a great obscure lore name, realized I wasn't sure how to spell it, and navigated away to check my sp. Come back, race through character creation, and realize that, unlike the first time around, I forgot to check the ironman box. So, I guess I at least have the awesome name reserved...


More on topic - are they still married, tho? I thought that whole angle of the story was singularly unsatisfying. And I was hoping for either a better explanation of why he recognized her instantly and she had no idea who he was at first, OR a better ending for Gully (without Cora).

Also miffed we never actually got to see Cheryl.

17-Oct-2016 17:45:21

Wahisietel
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Yeah, the fact that Cora is described as being a "young girl" when she was taken into slavery by The Skulls also makes things rather confusing, since she was also married to Gully at the time :| . You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

17-Oct-2016 21:11:45

Hguoh

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Wahisietel said :
Yeah, the fact that Cora is described as being a "young girl" when she was taken into slavery by The Skulls also makes things rather confusing, since she was also married to Gully at the time :| .

Eh, Middle Ages life expectancy wasn't all that good. Even accepting that Gielinor probably is better than that (depending on occupation), I wouldn't consider it all that odd if they happened to have been married when they were 14-17 years of age. That's still pretty young.

18-Oct-2016 04:44:33

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