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Raxxess

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Neo Bestia said :
Zulkir said :
Raxxess said :
It seems some people believe Saradomin has a ton of content relating to him and that he is the favored god. Do you guys feel this way?


He does have a ton of content relating to him.

I saw that thread of you and As**** on the other forum, bitching about Zaros getting some content.

If Saradomin started getting content, and people complained, what would you do? Ah that's right, same as us, telling you to shut the **** up complaining.


If people complained and had right cause, then it would be a valid argument, regardless if we saradominist agreed or not. Things could get eventually heated leading to disingenuous retorts, but our main argument wouldn't be to "shut up".

The amount of abilities Sueros is getting is shameful.


15 combat abilities, ancient curses, ancient magicks, ontop of torva,pernix, and virtus. His return quest series is required to get the best combat skills in game. And with Fot* being the center introduction to the 6th age storyline it is basically getting to the point. Where all players are Zarosian first whether they want to be or not and then their choice second.
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02-May-2014 16:29:05

Raxxess

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Neo Bestia said :
And actually, that thread of yours on Future Updates does invite for some good discussion Rax.

But I see Strauz has already resorted to his usual Ad Hominem's and Red Herrings.


Thanks as Strauz pointed out as well I had a similar thread in recent updates a while back. And its nice to see that it is only a small handful of Zarosians that actually are against younger gods having a bit more content and have some belief that they have a lot of content.

it was really odd when they used an alt account to pretend to be a Saradominist and then like as it goes on it just gets more and more a rant against me.
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02-May-2014 16:49:44 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 16:57:33 by Raxxess

Infinity Tao

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I don't really think it's 15 abilities... they said '15 additions', so they could mean that 4 abilities (ultimates) plus combat summons (nihils) and new dragon weaponry from Muspahs are 'additions'. Granted, it doesn't really add up to 15 but we'll wait and see. I doubt we'll get 15 abilities right off the bat like that.

And well... Zaros content isn't that huge pre-Mahjarrat storyline, so IMO the game was slightly heavily Saradominist biased (if it's mainly the followers we helped in quests) in 5th Age.

Please remember that for a long time we don't know who Zaros is or what his alignment was, but a lot of people back then (opinion of mine) might have believed he was evil because of old lores/history back then, and that Zamorak was 'better' than him because he was a less 'evil' version of him, hell, non-canon God Letters used to imply that Zaros was worse than Zamorak is and he's meant to be 'evil' or sorts! Hell, even then back, I used to think that Zaros was like a counterbalance to Guthix AKA Unbalance or something silly like that (pre-alignment). You can't be balanced all the time because it's too 'Mary Sueness' as some of you guys say.

Frankly, I'm content with Zarosian updates, but I'm happy to see more Seren, Armadyl, Bandos, Zamorak (he's still missing good stuff about himself!!!) and Godless. I don't care much for more Saradominist content if it'll just cause a ruckus between Zarosians and Saradominists - MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY. It's getting old. I'll rather see Armadyleans versus Bandosians (despite Bandos' death!...) or Zamorakians versus Godless... Anything but this tedious old tired Zarosians vs Saradominists!...

02-May-2014 16:55:10

Raxxess

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@Infinity

The same thing could be said about Saradomin we didn't know who he was we didn't know where he came from (still don't) we don't know how he ascended (still don't).

There is upcoming Armadyl, Bandos, and Zamorak content. But there is no Sara content which poses a problem.

Basically saradomin is the most bashed god in game because he doesn't get any of his own story but we get little tip-its of content that basically put just make him look like a the most evil god in game. Which is why we need Saradomin content. If you noticed on this forum its impossible to discuss saradomin lore he has very little and when you try to discuss you get trolled by a vast variety of zarosians, zamorakians, basically the entire forums lol. Because their is no positive content on Saradomin it is all player philosophy and you have to really dig for any content regarding him.

Basically put it there will always be a flame war against saradominists because he doesn't get any content that shows him in a positive light. Which means the people that prefer him "how can you follow an egotistical wing ripper!?" "he killed the naragi for no reason!!" "he murdered zarosians civilians!"

My theory is that the reason people don't want Saradomin content because if he actually got dialogue which he only has like 4 minutes of right now he would get his own side of the story and would be shown in a more likeable sense. I don't think people want this because then the flame wars, the faction bashing, would all stop.
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02-May-2014 17:06:06 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:08:40 by Raxxess

Falcoshin

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Neo Bestia said :
And actually, that thread of yours on Future Updates does invite for some good discussion Rax.

But I see Strauz has already resorted to his usual Ad Hominem's and Red Herrings.


At least we can agree he's nowhere near the caliber of idiot Somber Light is.

02-May-2014 17:06:39

Neo Bestia

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Infinity Tao said :
I don't really think it's 15 abilities... they said '15 additions', so they could mean that 4 abilities (ultimates) plus combat summons (nihils) and new dragon weaponry from Muspahs are 'additions'. Granted, it doesn't really add up to 15 but we'll wait and see. I doubt we'll get 15 abilities right off the bat like that.

And well... Zaros content isn't that huge pre-Mahjarrat storyline, so IMO the game was slightly heavily Saradominist biased (if it's mainly the followers we helped in quests) in 5th Age.

Please remember that for a long time we don't know who Zaros is or what his alignment was, but a lot of people back then (opinion of mine) might have believed he was evil because of old lores/history back then, and that Zamorak was 'better' than him because he was a less 'evil' version of him, hell, non-canon God Letters used to imply that Zaros was worse than Zamorak is and he's meant to be 'evil' or sorts! Hell, even then back, I used to think that Zaros was like a counterbalance to Guthix AKA Unbalance or something silly like that (pre-alignment). You can't be balanced all the time because it's too 'Mary Sueness' as some of you guys say.

Frankly, I'm content with Zarosian updates, but I'm happy to see more Seren, Armadyl, Bandos, Zamorak (he's still missing good stuff about himself!!!) and Godless. I don't care much for more Saradominist content if it'll just cause a ruckus between Zarosians and Saradominists - MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY. It's getting old. I'll rather see Armadyleans versus Bandosians (despite Bandos' death!...) or Zamorakians versus Godless... Anything but this tedious old tired Zarosians vs Saradominists!...



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02-May-2014 17:07:08 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:09:27 by Neo Bestia

Infinity Tao

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Ancient Combat

Members only, new mid- to high-level
combat abilities.


Learn the secrets of the old masters with Ancient Combat! This update contains fifteen new additions to ***
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But it doesn't really say much. The ultimates are what, 75 requirement? (Barring the level 91 requirement one). 75 could be Mid and 91 could be high. We'll just find out eventually when it arrives. I don't want you to embarass yourself or me embarassing myself.

02-May-2014 17:09:24

Neo Bestia

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Infinity Tao said :
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Ancient Combat

Members only, new mid- to high-level
combat abilities.


Learn the secrets of the old masters with Ancient Combat! This update contains fifteen new additions to ***


But it doesn't really say much. The ultimates are what, 75 requirement? (Barring the level 91 requirement one). 75 could be Mid and 91 could be high. We'll just find out eventually when it arrives. I don't want you to embarass yourself or me embarassing myself.[/quote]

Fair enough, but what we are discussing is the amount.

I think it was really just a case to avoid repetition (instead of abilities "combat additions&quot ;) .

Even so, did the guthixian ultimates reach the 90's?



Falcoshin said :
Neo Bestia said :
And actually, that thread of yours on Future Updates does invite for some good discussion Rax.

But I see Strauz has already resorted to his usual Ad Hominem's and Red Herrings.


At least we can agree he's nowhere near the caliber of idiot Somber Light is.


I haven't seen Somber post in quite some time now that you mention it.

Must be busy with the new zarosian clan.

02-May-2014 17:11:42 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:17:16 by Neo Bestia

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