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Infinity Tao

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Raxxess said :
@Infinity

The same thing could be said about Saradomin we didn't know who he was we didn't know where he came from (still don't) we don't know how he ascended (still don't).

There is upcoming Armadyl, Bandos, and Zamorak content. But there is no Sara content which poses a problem.

Basically put it there will always be a flame war against saradominists because he doesn't get any content that shows him in a positive light. Which means the people that prefer him "how can you follow an egotistical wing ripper!?" "he killed the naragi for no reason!!" "he murdered zarosians civilians!"

My theory is that the reason people don't want Saradomin content because if he actually got dialogue which he only has like 4 minutes of right now he would get his own side of the story and would be shown in a more likeable sense. I don't think people want this because then the flame wars, the faction bashing, would all stop.

But for years, we've always known Saradomin as God of Order, Peace, Light, Justice, bah-bah (just judging from NPCs' dialogue, not the players, mind you!) and we knew nothing about his temper, other than dealing with 'evil' beings. Centuries of 'good' propaganda and hypocritical/secretive Temple Knights' shady dealing (not unlike Zarosians) is... questionable at least (IMO, I'm not stating it as a fact.)

I could agree with your theory.... if it wasn't for a certain person who made it much worse for everyone, including Saradominists themselves - aka He-who-must-not-be-named. He was infamous for his awful 'X God is E V I L' threads. Thanks to him (IMO), Saradomin and his followers are the most bashed in this forum. Hell, when Padomenes arrived with his threads, I've almost convinced myself that he was a troll account created to discredit Saradominist faction and making them look bad. I just can't really trust a lot of Saradominists because of the negative history linked with them.

02-May-2014 17:20:23

Infinity Tao

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I still find it too unlikely for us Zarosians to get 15 abilities PLUS combat summons PLUS Muspah slaying (Ok, it's not Zarosian but hear me out...). I think it's way too much, in my opinion. Even if magic and range need more combat abilities to... *sighs* combat (is there a better word than 'combat'? lol) the more abilities that melee have already?

The Guthixian abilities require level 85, but I can't see if you need to do all the requirements to get them or only TWW. It was a 'novice' grandmaster to push us into 6th Age, I suppose...

...while Zarosian abilities require a few requirements (debatable) to get the abilities (if FOT* is needed for abilities, which I am unsure of.)

02-May-2014 17:24:13 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:27:44 by Infinity Tao

Raxxess

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Infinity Tao said :

But for years, we've always known Saradomin as God of Order, Peace, Light, Justice, bah-bah (just judging from NPCs' dialogue, not the players, mind you!) and we knew nothing about his temper, other than dealing with 'evil' beings. Centuries of 'good' propaganda and hypocritical/secretive Temple Knights' shady dealing (not unlike Zarosians) is... questionable at least (IMO, I'm not stating it as a fact.)

I could agree with your theory.... if it wasn't for a certain person who made it much worse for everyone, including Saradominists themselves - aka He-who-must-not-be-named. He was infamous for his awful 'X God is E V I L' threads. Thanks to him (IMO), Saradomin and his followers are the most bashed in this forum. Hell, when Padomenes arrived with his threads, I've almost convinced myself that he was a troll account created to discredit Saradominist faction and making them look bad. I just can't really trust a lot of Saradominists because of the negative history linked with them.

I hate to be really blunt here but that is no justification for Saradomin not having content lol. The people on the forums represent such a small portion of people that like gods. The point I love to stress Zaros has this immense amount of content tons of high-tier quests. 5 of the 10 grandmaster quests are essential to his storyline and one actually is all about him. And still only 23% of the emissary community follow Zaros. So I mean it isn't leaving out a small minority of players it is leaving a lot of players out.

The reason saradomin is bashed is plainly put because game lore caters and encourages it.

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02-May-2014 17:26:22

Zulkir

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Raxxess said :
Infinity Tao said :

But for years, we've always known Saradomin as God of Order, Peace, Light, Justice, bah-bah (just judging from NPCs' dialogue, not the players, mind you!) and we knew nothing about his temper, other than dealing with 'evil' beings. Centuries of 'good' propaganda and hypocritical/secretive Temple Knights' shady dealing (not unlike Zarosians) is... questionable at least (IMO, I'm not stating it as a fact.)

I could agree with your theory.... if it wasn't for a certain person who made it much worse for everyone, including Saradominists themselves - aka He-who-must-not-be-named. He was infamous for his awful 'X God is E V I L' threads. Thanks to him (IMO), Saradomin and his followers are the most bashed in this forum. Hell, when Padomenes arrived with his threads, I've almost convinced myself that he was a troll account created to discredit Saradominist faction and making them look bad. I just can't really trust a lot of Saradominists because of the negative history linked with them.

The reason saradomin is bashed is plainly put because game lore caters and encourages it.

50% child murdering reasons. 50% self entitled bitching children reasons.

EDIT: Well, those are my reasons for treating you lot like ****.

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02-May-2014 17:28:59 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:30:41 by Zulkir

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King Shoshon

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We are almost half-way through the year and the only young god content (outside the end of the BatB and the spring event) has been Sueros. It would be nice if the story diversified a bit more is all. I would like Saradomin content, but I concede that all the other factions need it more than him. Armadyl needs Rite of Passage which will probably never come, Zamorak will need his heist quest which is scheduled for sometime in the future, and hopefully we will get some Godless content so we can figure out literally anything about them. There are other factions and stories other than Sueros. We will move across their borders and pick our teeth with their bones. We will flush them from their homes and crush them beneath our paws. We will finally be free of the filthy Brown Tigers once and for all! White Tiger Kingdom! White Tiger World!

02-May-2014 17:33:31

Infinity Tao

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Raxxess said :

I hate to be really blunt here but that is no justification for Saradomin not having content lol. The people on the forums represent such a small portion of people that like gods. The point I love to stress Zaros has this immense amount of content tons of high-tier quests. 5 of the 10 grandmaster quests are essential to his storyline and one actually is all about him. And still only 23% of the emissary community follow Zaros. So I mean it isn't leaving out a small minority of players it is leaving a lot of players out.

The reason saradomin is bashed is plainly put because game lore caters and encourages it.

Eh, your opinion.

I'll stick with my opinion.

As long as you don't have a black/white mentality/view of anything that isn't Saradomin, I have no objection against your posts/threads that discuss on how Saradomin is treated unfairly, even if I can agree somewhat with you. Even though I'll want to see more Zamorak content first to make up for a possible lack of knowledge about who Zamorak was/what he wants in World Event 1. He had a long negative history to deal with first, and recently (a month or so?) all the old examine options of Zamorakian content were changed to stop calling him 'evil'. After that, sure, bring on more positive Saradomin content!

Lethal, do you have to troll all the time? Even some Zarosians are sick of you.

Don't make me bring out Mah!

And for love of Zaros, quit with 'Sueros'! In my eyes, he might be carefully hiding his flaws and making himself seem friendly/good to you, but nooooooo, you think he's being a Mary Sue! What if that's the point? He's making himself look good to you, never mind if he's telling the truth about not being able to lie to you.. or not! *Flips table*

02-May-2014 17:34:48 - Last edited on 02-May-2014 17:39:29 by Infinity Tao

Raxxess

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King Shoshon said :
We are almost half-way through the year and the only young god content (outside the end of the BatB and the spring event) has been Sueros. It would be nice if the story diversified a bit more is all. I would like Saradomin content, but I concede that all the other factions need it more than him. Armadyl needs Rite of Passage which will probably never come, Zamorak will need his heist quest which is scheduled for sometime in the future, and hopefully we will get some Godless content so we can figure out literally anything about them. There are other factions and stories other than Sueros.

Heist and Rite of Passage are coming out this year or planned I guess I should say. But Saradomin doesn't have anything planned this year to what we know. Unless he is part of those secret quests or something.

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02-May-2014 17:35:10

Raxxess

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Infinity Tao said :
Raxxess said :

I hate to be really blunt here but that is no justification for Saradomin not having content lol. The people on the forums represent such a small portion of people that like gods. The point I love to stress Zaros has this immense amount of content tons of high-tier quests. 5 of the 10 grandmaster quests are essential to his storyline and one actually is all about him. And still only 23% of the emissary community follow Zaros. So I mean it isn't leaving out a small minority of players it is leaving a lot of players out.

The reason saradomin is bashed is plainly put because game lore caters and encourages it.

Eh, your opinion.

I'll stick with my opinion.

As long as you don't have a black/white mentality/view of anything that isn't Saradomin, I have no objection against your posts/threads that discuss on how Saradomin is treated unfairly, even if I can agree somewhat with you. Even though I'll want to see more Zamorak content first to make up for a possible lack of knowledge about who Zamorak was/what he wants in World Event 1. He had a long negative history to deal with first, and recently (a month or so?) all the old examine options of Zamorakian content were changed to stop calling him 'evil'. After that, sure, bring on more positive Saradomin content!

Thank you

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- Aegis of Saradomin

02-May-2014 17:36:37

Chaos Lupus

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I would love to see more Saradomin content, as I find him to be an extremely interesting character (like most of the major gods), but I find him to be in the least need of content. Death of Chivalry, in my opinion, had one of the most interesting stories that we've ever gotten in quest content. I'm really hopeful that the quest line will be a trilogy by the time that Mod Stu is done with it. On the other hand, though, other gods haven't received nearly as much content as they should have. Armadyl needs a quest (hopefully he'll feature in Rite of Passage), Zamorak still needs his quest (which is scheduled for late this year/early next year), we still need the Bandosian quest, and Seren still needs to be restored. Hopefully each storyline will be as interesting and immersive as Death of Chivalry, in its own way. Perhaps we'll see various gods included in other content as well.

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03-May-2014 00:52:56

Raxxess

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Chaos Lupus said :
I would love to see more Saradomin content, as I find him to be an extremely interesting character (like most of the major gods), but I find him to be in the least need of content. Death of Chivalry, in my opinion, had one of the most interesting stories that we've ever gotten in quest content. I'm really hopeful that the quest line will be a trilogy by the time that Mod Stu is done with it. On the other hand, though, other gods haven't received nearly as much content as they should have. Armadyl needs a quest (hopefully he'll feature in Rite of Passage), Zamorak still needs his quest (which is scheduled for late this year/early next year), we still need the Bandosian quest, and Seren still needs to be restored. Hopefully each storyline will be as interesting and immersive as Death of Chivalry, in its own way. Perhaps we'll see various gods included in other content as well.

Same I'm glad they are doing the Zamorak quest and Armadyl quest. But I do wonder sometimes about Saradomin he seems to be a bit far behind but that does also depend on the Zamorak and Armadyl quest I don't like that we already have a good grasp on the sixth age elder god series but the younger gods have barely started. I'm just hoping it stacks up in content with the Seren update which seems like it is going to be huge because elf prayers and spells won the poll, new city, I think she is going to have a ton. Plus I'm really hoping we aren't following a new trend where we are getting Zarosian content every two months lol because it is kind of getting bland.

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03-May-2014 00:57:23

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