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Eren Lapucet

Eren Lapucet

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I'm of the opine that canon-wise, the player is probably some hybrid of Guthixian, Godless and Unaligned ( mostly the latter and I aint even biased ). If I took my character seriously anymore I would follow that paradigm. Here's how I would break it down:

Main motivation: "Genuine desire to help people" and "Sense of duty" (especially after becoming World Guardian)

Peripheral motivation: "For the joy of adventuring" and "to gain knowledge and skills"

I imagine that "To earn glory and renown." and "To get a reward at the end." were likely the main motivations when the player started out, but once they matured it stopped being a motivation, and is one of the things the player regrets.
I'm too Unaligned to have a forum signature.

16-Mar-2017 02:04:06

Raleirosen

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Penny Drakis said :
Just looking for a way to get back home. That this world is too dangerous to keep existing is a secondary, but very related, motivation.
Very cool but what faction are you for Chrissake. It's like the people who frequent LD don't read past the first half of a thread's title...

Eren Lapucet said :
I'm of the opine that canon-wise, the player is probably some hybrid of Guthixian, Godless and Unaligned ( mostly the latter and I aint even biased ). If I took my character seriously anymore I would follow that paradigm. Here's how I would break it down:

Main motivation: "Genuine desire to help people" and "Sense of duty" (especially after becoming World Guardian)
Guthixian/Godless/whatever that last one is don't have a patent on benevolence and duty. Though I would agree that if a canon player exists he/she would be unaligned/mercenary.
Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

16-Mar-2017 02:28:11 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 02:28:26 by Raleirosen

Penny Drakis

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Raleirosen said :
Penny Drakis said :
Just looking for a way to get back home. That this world is too dangerous to keep existing is a secondary, but very related, motivation.
Very cool but what faction are you for Chrissake. It's like the people who frequent LD don't read past the first half of a thread's title...


Ah shucks, I didn't think anyone cared to know; thanks for giving a damn.

Anyhow, Amascutian. I don't think there is enough lore that PCs know about to call her a Wenist but when more is revealed to her about Wen she might still not convert. It will happen wen it happens, if it happens, in the fulness of time, jas you wait, bikause mah sources tell me Elder Gods are already being killed off.

Ugh, what did I just do? That was horrible.
Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "
Let there be light.
"
And then there were none .

16-Mar-2017 04:01:51

Questcaping
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Penny Drakis said :
Ugh, what did I just do? That was horrible.


Funny way of spelling amazing.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I surveyed Reddit (and a few clanmates) recently on their alignments, with an optional question for "why are you aligned with your chosen faction". I'm still in the process of making an interactive infographic for all the data, but for now, here are a few answers that might be at least somewhat relevant to this thread:

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Armadyl is the most proper balance of order, freedom, hope and reality.
He is as a real world leader should be.


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I feel Armadyl and his brand of justice is true what the world needs to thrive


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[Godless] It's what Guthix would have wanted


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[Godless] All of the Gods have their own agenda to push; as the world guardian, my responsibility is to ensure none of them affect the balance of Gielinor with their actions.


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[Sliske] for the lols of kicking his ass while being aligned to him

(doesn't get more Sliskean than that, folks)

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Sliske isn't the best person out there, but he's chaotic neutral. Have to respect that he stirs up trouble.


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V is similar to your adventurer, can identify with him


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Zamorak seems to be the only God who is true to his ideals, and the only God who will always stick by them. You know what to expect of Zamorak. He's a revolutionary leader who gained power from overthrowing a leader whom he deemed a failure and an untrustworthy liar. He's also very realistic in the sense that he recognises that the Gods will never work together, as opposed to naive Armadyl.
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16-Mar-2017 08:46:16

ZAmorakZaros
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ZAmorakZaros said :
I aim for world domination. Well mainly to rule all the fremmy lands, Morytania, Kandarin, Asgarnia, wilderness and Troll lands. I will leave misthalin alone if Roald becomes a better ruler. Getting rid of Aeonisig was a step to the right direction

I am in many factions. Mostly Zamorakian but I follow and support Zaros and marimbo too . I think it is 40:30:30?
NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

16-Mar-2017 08:53:58

Raleirosen

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Cthris said :
Corrected You forgot a T! Haha :P :P
I suggest googling before you attempt a correction.

Penny Drakis said :
Anyhow, Amascutian. I don't think there is enough lore that PCs know about to call her a Wenist but when more is revealed to her about Wen she might still not convert.
Actually I'm pretty sure I knew you were Amascutian before, it just skipped my mind. In any case that is indeed a unique motivation/faction combination.

Questcaping said :
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Thanks for adding those; not all of them answer my question, but it's always interesting to read regardless.
Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

16-Mar-2017 11:30:46 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 11:31:13 by Raleirosen

Big Storms

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I might expand on my character's motivation outlook on factions when I have the time, but my signature should already give a decent summary.

I do not see gods as ultimate beings with ideologies to follow, rather I see them as incredibly powerful beings with ideals no different than those of mere mortals, each with their own flaws and benefits. To be following one blindly would be giving up carving your own path. To principally follow the godless would be no different.

Instead I follow my own ideals and help gods out when their ideals coincide with mine. I essentially see them as equals, the same being true for every inhabitant of Gielinor. Only rarely do I turn my back against gods that fundamentally differ in their ideals from mine: Bandos and Sliske come to mind.

My character is one that pursues knowledge: one could say to a dangerous extent even. Perhaps Sylens from Horizon Zero Dawn is an accurate comparison here. In that regard there are some similarities to be drawn with Zaros, he too trying to bring forth the full potential in individuals.

Yet my character is still strongly driven by a moral compass, one of the main morals being to treat everyone equally and act according to rules one wishes to be universal and hence reciprocal (Kant's ethological rule for those interested). This greatly differs from Zaros, who views himself as being greater as a direct descendant from an elder god. For now this has not led to any real issues but when the times comes that it will, my character will oppose Zaros when needed.
This moral compass is also very similar to Armadyl, he viewing his followers as peers rather then thinking lesser of them. He actually does not want to be a god and faults himself for his past mistakes, things I see as good qualities. Seren similarly tries to help others and wishes no conflict, while regretting her past choices with the elves and the Mahjarrat. Ichtlarin, while being a god of lesser power, also seems have a rather rational view.
"One should not mindlessly follow gods or the godless:
follow
your
own
path
"
~Big Storms

16-Mar-2017 12:09:12 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 12:11:43 by Big Storms

Big Storms

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I can go through an entire list of gods, but my main point is that they all have their positive and negative traits just like any other person. As such my character helps them when their ideals align and opposes them when this is not the case.

That pretty much sums things up =p
"One should not mindlessly follow gods or the godless:
follow
your
own
path
"
~Big Storms

16-Mar-2017 12:10:41

Cthris
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Raleirosen said :
Cthris said :
Corrected You forgot a T! Haha :P :P
I suggest googling before you attempt a correction.

Lol you got me. Didn't know chrissake is a thing :P Still feels so wrong without a t thrown in lol, like that's my actual name!


Anyways, to the post above, I'm interesting in knowing about your motivation for subscribing to Kantian duty ethics?

16-Mar-2017 12:25:24 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2017 12:40:14 by Cthris

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