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A Mad Hatter
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"Just a small question,
If the Guthxian Mages teleported the Stone of Jas to an unknown location, how can Drakan cross half of Gielinor to get the Stone with the Salve in the way? And why can't the vampyres just sail north past Daemonheim and go west?"
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First off, I'm not entirely certain if a reason was given about why the vampyres can't just sail out of Morytania and go around the salve that way. It could be that the travel arrangements don't allow for a decently prepared force to actually pull it off (vampyres need to "eat" too, and stockpiling enough blood to use for sailing rations could take quite a while when factoring in basic eating patterns in normal everyday life for them), or it could just be an oversight on jagex's part.

But for the Stone of Jas, I believe a FAQ not too long ago said that the daeyalt ore was either a rock that was mutated by magical runoff from the stone itself, or just parts of the stone that were left behind after it was moved from the area. So he might not even need to leave his kingdom to go look for it, though I suppose if he needed agents on the outside he could easily hire/conscript a few werewolves to cross the salve O_o

"You know, if a Vampyre were to say 'closest thing to a god' today, I might just take that as a hint that Drakan is actually close to becoming a god. Perhaps we will find out in next few days?"
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I've always thought that the saying was just a way of acknowledging that he wasn't a 'true' god (yet?), but still powerful enough to come across as one to those who don't see the guy everyday.

Then again, someone is sorta refilling our prayer points when we use the Darkmeyer altar, so that might be a real subtle clue in itself (unless I missed the ingame explanation for it and the reality is whatever god we pray to restores prayer points at any altar regardless of who it's dedicated to) >****;
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29-Dec-2012 22:49:48 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2012 22:55:09 by A Mad Hatter

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Runic Hero: It's like asking why the good guys in Lord of the Rings didn't just get the giant eagles to carry the ring into Mordor via air and drop it into Mt. Doom from above. The answer is in all likelihood that it would make for a crap story if that were the case. Sometimes we have to suspend belief and, sadly, 3-Dimentional thinking to go along with what is a good story anyway.

Also, the focus won't be on the Stone of Jas but the Daeyalt Ore which has been enfused with its power (courtesy of Mod Osborne on his latest youtube interview).

30-Dec-2012 00:08:49 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2012 00:09:08 by [#TWA99I4ZX]

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There is actually a reason for the whole eagle thing besides making it a crap story. The eagles are very mighty and proud, and do not wish to act purely as transportation. They do sometimes make exceptions though.

On to topic, I believe it was said deayalt was infused with the stone's power instead of being parts of the stone itself. I also do not believe the stone of jas can leave behind fragments or be destroyed in any way so easily. It's a pretty solid stone from what I've seen :) .

This makes me wondering, if Daeyalt is infused with the power of the stone very much like rune esssence rocks, what's the difference between the two? Maybe Deayalt was just a regular ore before, while rune essence was just rock. Or maybe they act in the same way and Drakan wants to use it to absorb the blessing of the salve somehow.
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01-Jan-2013 19:28:04

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It could be a difference in how long the exposure to the stone was. The rune essence mines are all sparkly and shiny and look very "affected", whereas daeyalt is just oddly coloured. There doesn't seem to be any effect in the guthix temple beneath lumbridge, where it was only stored for 169 years, whereas the stone was stored in the lunar mine for the entirety of the fourth age, where there is now an essence rock. Its possible that it was stored in the daeyalt mine for some time during the third age if zamorak had possession of it

02-Jan-2013 16:34:11

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I think someone said this on page 7, and I agree that Ivan may well be Vanstrom's son. Having read the novels, it is well possible that Pia (she had a relationship with Vanstrom when he was human) is his mother. It would explain why they appear to have a connection. Plus also in the same book, it is noted that Vampyrism is non-genetic, meaning that if a Vampire and a human have a baby, the baby will be human. Even though both parents were probably human at the time, it still adds plausibility to it.

With this it could add a whole plot twist to the storyline. Even though my evidence is only in the books, they are ****idered canon and Doric does tell tales of his adventures with Kara-Mier. However (sorry to go a bit off topic), due to the quest revamp he may not say it anymore or it could be controversial due to the fact that Boric was still possibly living with him at the point.

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02-Jan-2013 17:19:05

William Witt
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Let me ask you, Timelordtoe. Have you read all three novels... Including Legacy of Blood?

If so, may I... speak to you ingame?


Now, on the matter of Doric! Doric does still have referencing. I very recently discovered, by the way, that old Doric reference dialogue is now voice-acted! I'm not sure when that voicing was added, but it didn't have voice-acting when What's Mine is Yours first came out!


Also, that isn't the only reference in the game...

In fact, I discovered on my free-to-play character Chen Reskew in the combat beta a *NEW* reference that seems to have come with the quest.

During the part with Boric and Doric where you have to 'calm' things, you can get an option to tell Doric to tell Boric about his past... Which also seems to include referencing!

And considering during What's Mine is Yours, the thing about how Boric had finished his studies in Keldagrim and should have returned weeks ago... Perhaps at the time of the novels, Boric was studying in Keldagrim?
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02-Jan-2013 17:27:25

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Timelordtoe: Ivan appears in Legacy of Blood as a young teenager, so I’m afraid there isn’t a link to be found there.

Kitty: I have no idea who Boric is, so I’ll stay quiet about that one!

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Apparently, Mod Nancy left Jagex in October last year. It's sad to see the Jagex veterans fall away one by one.

Also, January BTS doesn't mention the Grandmaster quest which is supposed to come out soon :@

02-Jan-2013 19:01:36

Timelordtoe
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Kittyphantom, I have read all three novels and did not see the reference there. My previous theory may have been disproved, but having had a think, it is possible that Ivan and Vanstrom were in the Myreque at the same time, the connection may well mean that they were close friends.

Timelordtoe :)

03-Jan-2013 21:53:26

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