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Jakir

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This thread is simply fantastic. Did you use quest release dates and things like dragon slayer, hero's, legend's, and wgs requiring all the current quest points at the time to do? Logically that would mean that all the quests released between say hero's quest and legend's must have occurred canonically in that time as well. (Although perhaps they could have occurred prior to that time but definitely not after it.)

05-Mar-2014 10:04:47 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2014 10:05:57 by Jakir

Robo Hobo

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Quest release dates, not so much, but quest requirements definitely. I can say with 100% confidence that now (after I fixed the two errors) my example timeline doesn't have any req contradictions...Mostly, since that's the timeline I used for the marathon so I woulda noticed any contradictions that came up, which were 2, and were fixed.

The reasoning behind not having quest release dates is because we've seen them make new quests for novices and are meant to be beginner sometimes.

There are a lot of other factors that help that though. You can only fully appreciate a story when you experience it through the eyes of one of its characters.

06-Mar-2014 06:40:20

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Heidly Ees

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What's your opinion on Ashdale? That tutorial has replaced the Troll Warzone (since apparently all the trolls left) but seems to take place in the Sixth Age. For new players doing Fifth Age quests that'll be very confusing.. but it'd be necessary that that would be the first thing the adventurer would do.

Perhaps put Ashdale AFTER World Wakes, so the World Guardian takes a short holiday to visit family/friends in Ashdale, then gets caught up in the adventuring lark again? I'm just a man; I'm not a hero.
Just a boy who had to sing this song.

09-Mar-2014 15:20:54 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2014 15:22:03 by Heidly Ees

Zebub

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I sometimes put question marks why you place a particular quest in that section.

Part 1: The Adventurer

I would have placed The Lost Tribe (and all Lumbridge quests) after Tears of Guthix. But that's just my opinion.

Part 2: The Champion

Monk's Friend is just helping the monks organising a party and you put it as a champion quest???? Like what logic is behind that

. Same for Gunnar's Ground and the other novice Ardougne quests. I think those novice quests are best placed before slaying a dragon...

(To be continued, got to go).

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Control

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Order

and

Chaos

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Collectivity

and

Individuality

, there must be...

Balance

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09-Mar-2014 16:33:49 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2014 16:34:10 by Zebub

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Heidly Ees

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Zebub said :

Monk's Friend is just helping the monks organising a party and you put it as a champion quest???? Like what logic is behind that

. Same for Gunnar's Ground and the other novice Ardougne quests. I think those novice quests are best placed before slaying a dragon...

It's due to their locations. Not once in the entire "Adventurer" section does the adventurer travel to Ardougne, or indeed any part of Kandarin. It's only after the Fishing Contest quest that the Champion begins to explore these areas. As far as Gunnar's Ground is concerned, I think it would be reasonable to do that before Dragon Slayer, but it was only placed there again because its start is so close to Dragon Slayer's end. I'm just a man; I'm not a hero.
Just a boy who had to sing this song.

09-Mar-2014 17:29:00

Zebub

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Heidly Ees said :
Zebub said :

Monk's Friend is just helping the monks organising a party and you put it as a champion quest???? Like what logic is behind that

. Same for Gunnar's Ground and the other novice Ardougne quests. I think those novice quests are best placed before slaying a dragon...

It's due to their locations. Not once in the entire "Adventurer" section does the adventurer travel to Ardougne, or indeed any part of Kandarin. It's only after the Fishing Contest quest that the Champion begins to explore these areas. As far as Gunnar's Ground is concerned, I think it would be reasonable to do that before Dragon Slayer, but it was only placed there again because its start is so close to Dragon Slayer's end.
Thing is, you really can build no case why the adventurer didn't visit a big city like Ardougne. I doubt he/she went to the desert but not to the capital of the biggest kingdom on Gielinor.

Oh and:
Robo Hobo said :
Try to avoid using things like location, to determine this particular order, as location cannot be determined completely, there's no reason to specify why someone would go north rather than south at any given time, so lets work on the other factors for this one.

~ There must be

Tranquillity

and

Conflict

,

Liberty

and

Control

,

Order

and

Chaos

,

Collectivity

and

Individuality

, there must be...

Balance

! Join the 9th faction: Guthix! ~

~ There must be Tranquillity and Conflict, Liberty and Control, Order and Chaos, Collectivity and Individuality, there must be... Balance! ~

09-Mar-2014 18:24:07 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2014 18:25:59 by Zebub

Zebub

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(Continued)

The Hero

A bit same issue I addressed before, there is something odd why some quests are placed here. Searching for a missing cat in Gertrude's Cat is not something a hero would do... This also applies on Enlightend Journey and Scorpion Catcher.

The Legend

I actually expected Fur 'n Seek to be completed right after Rag and Bone Man. It just seems odd to place this along WGS, ROTM and various other epic quests. It also seems odd that the whole Void serie is placed as Legend while it could have been spread among Champion and Hero.

~ There must be

Tranquillity

and

Conflict

,

Liberty

and

Control

,

Order

and

Chaos

,

Collectivity

and

Individuality

, there must be...

Balance

! Join the 9th faction: Guthix! ~

~ There must be Tranquillity and Conflict, Liberty and Control, Order and Chaos, Collectivity and Individuality, there must be... Balance! ~

09-Mar-2014 18:37:43

Robo Hobo

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Yeah, Gertrude's cat is an exception to this timeline, and one of the reasons I keep hoping some others work on a secondary one as my example one isn't intended to be a good one for all players - I think I said this somewhere on the thread, not sure, but the reason for it being in the Hero section and not in the first run through Varrock while in the Adventurer/Champion area is because of my character's particular backstory - Ana Meken.

Basically she has a (still living) mother who's obsessed with cats, and her house is in the Pollniveach house portal, so upon doing Gertrude's cat she would be reminded of her mother and want to visit her and show it to her (Also because she promised she'd get her one after one of theirs died right before she went off adventuring, though she says to let Ana keep it when she gets there), which is why she heads off in a desert direction straight after Gertrude's cat, and those quests there I felt would be better for hero so that she doesn't go back to the desert too soon if it were in Champ/Adventurer.

It's also why A Clockwork Syringe starts after Do No Evil - house being in Pollniveach, DNE ending in the desert, close by and all. So yeah, just an exception due to player backstory reasons.

As for Fur 'N' Seek, I'm not sure. I don't like doing quests series right in a row after eachother unless the starting NPC's are different due to timeskip things. I'm not sure if this one felt any different during the playthrough in that regard, although, it might have - I remember he kept interrupting me when I was fixing up bones.

My thought was that he might've needed some time to put all of the bones the adventurer got from the first quest + wishlist, and to figure out what he would need for clothes anyway, unless he just keeps that all in his head at all times.

That, and I was thinking more of the Skeletal horror aspect of it than the novice quest sequel, since I do the wishlist miniquests right after the quest. You can only fully appreciate a story when you experience it through the eyes of one of its characters.

09-Mar-2014 19:38:14

Robo Hobo

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As for Lost Tribe/Tears of Guthix, any particular reason? The reason I went the other way was because I entered Lumbridge from the east (after exiting the desert), so I took quests from that area first, tears of guthix would mean passing up Lumbridge entirely, looking through the swamp, then coming back for the quests.

The reason Monk's friend, or any novice-type super-easy quest takes place in Champion instead of Adventurer is because one of my side-restrictions was to keep myself in the desert (due to that being where my character comes from), Misthalin and Asgarnia. Sort-of F2P area (minus the desert) but not F2P quests, when Champion came around she, for the first time (since she was a kid anyway), set foot into Kandarin, and thus was able to start doing quests there. It's a location overrides difficulty thing. You can only fully appreciate a story when you experience it through the eyes of one of its characters.

09-Mar-2014 19:47:19

Robo Hobo

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@ Heidly, so long as the 6th age references in Ashdale remain, I'll consider it as taking place in the 6th age, so yeah some sort of explanation for why the adventurer ends up there after TWW, be it amnesia or just taking a holiday or something else, it's up to people individually not for me or anyone else to say for them.

For my character though, the one that did the marathon anyway, I've already got a nice explanation for it in the backstory, it goes an amnesia route but it's like, a different playthrough from the first, it accounts for 5th age quests, but as flashbacks. You can only fully appreciate a story when you experience it through the eyes of one of its characters.

09-Mar-2014 20:00:45

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