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capn j a z z

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Just to be clear what I mean, I go to zlutz house regardless because that's the house I know and the host I know. When they're not on, I go to one of the other names i recognize. At no point do I consider browsing through the other hosts.

That's a big part of what makes it hard to be a new host: familiarity. And ad board or not, bots or not--its going to take time to build that. Like anything in this game, hold on to your patience! Cuz it's a grind!

<3

19-Jun-2023 20:16:27

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2023

0ffice Hours

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capn j a z z said :
0ffice Hours said :
thanks for the well wishes, but i think i'll need more than some wishes to beat the cheating existing bastion

You have hosted for less than a week, and you feel you should be "beat"ing the "existing bastion". You also are 100% sure that the established hosts are cheating, with your evidence being that you "see" it. This type mentality is not the way to build a community. Rome was not built in a day, and blaming your lack of immediate success on systemic issues doesn't behoove you.

And johnor... Where to begin. I'm surprised rabbitmeds supports behaviors and posts like these. Quite clear that these critiques are coming from a biased, unclear place based on assumptions about others' cheating and vast conspiracy theories about Jagex as a whole. Without concrete specific evidence.

I still see a place for noobs and people needing money burning. I still see a place for the ad board. I still don't see any of this, though, as a priority for most of the community nor Jagex. I do like mod ashs idea though. Have u touched based with mod ash on Twitter, johnor?

Happy Juneteenth! <3

I never said/claimed i needed to be top shot right away.
But the current cheating (advertising + burner bots) is just too much to compete against legitimate.

I know the name recognition needs to build but multiple days with 100 visitors (5 max at a time) is not something that seems normal to me...

20-Jun-2023 14:42:43

itsjohnor

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capn j a z z said :
0ffice Hours said :
thanks for the well wishes, but i think i'll need more than some wishes to beat the cheating existing bastion

You have hosted for less than a week, and you feel you should be "beat"ing the "existing bastion". You also are 100% sure that the established hosts are cheating, with your evidence being that you "see" it. This type mentality is not the way to build a community. Rome was not built in a day, and blaming your lack of immediate success on systemic issues doesn't behoove you.

And johnor... Where to begin. I'm surprised rabbitmeds supports behaviors and posts like these. Quite clear that these critiques are coming from a biased, unclear place based on assumptions about others' cheating and vast conspiracy theories about Jagex as a whole. Without concrete specific evidence.

I still see a place for noobs and people needing money burning. I still see a place for the ad board. I still don't see any of this, though, as a priority for most of the community nor Jagex. I do like mod ashs idea though. Have u touched based with mod ash on Twitter, johnor?

Happy Juneteenth! <3

I am sorry but, the client, the bot script and the whole thing is now live on youtube, again read the post.

What host goes around the back of the altars in the same pattern at same intervals for 24 hours a day on an alt bot account, their mains do not get ban because they are on residentail proxys.

Why do you keep defending this sht? Soon as I do it, your all going to start crying, just wake up and admit it.

Theres now proof again on youtube, with the client directly and the script directly, you going to keep denying it now, your making your self look incredibly dumb now.

20-Jun-2023 16:45:18

itsjohnor

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0ffice Hours said :
capn j a z z said :
0ffice Hours said :
thanks for the well wishes, but i think i'll need more than some wishes to beat the cheating existing bastion

You have hosted for less than a week, and you feel you should be "beat"ing the "existing bastion". You also are 100% sure that the established hosts are cheating, with your evidence being that you "see" it. This type mentality is not the way to build a community. Rome was not built in a day, and blaming your lack of immediate success on systemic issues doesn't behoove you.

And johnor... Where to begin. I'm surprised rabbitmeds supports behaviors and posts like these. Quite clear that these critiques are coming from a biased, unclear place based on assumptions about others' cheating and vast conspiracy theories about Jagex as a whole. Without concrete specific evidence.

I still see a place for noobs and people needing money burning. I still see a place for the ad board. I still don't see any of this, though, as a priority for most of the community nor Jagex. I do like mod ashs idea though. Have u touched based with mod ash on Twitter, johnor?

Happy Juneteenth! <3

I never said/claimed i needed to be top shot right away.
But the current cheating (advertising + burner bots) is just too much to compete against legitimate.

I know the name recognition needs to build but multiple days with 100 visitors (5 max at a time) is not something that seems normal to me...

This is typical ironic behaviour from an individual thats curropted, they avoid the topic at hand and act like nothings going on, 2 days ago the video was released, they cannot say its fake anymore..

This is going to continue because jagex do not care, someone i know has 642 total level in 7 days of botting, no ban, no mute, even typed in chat hes botting, nothing..

At this point I think jagex are fools.

20-Jun-2023 16:47:00 - Last edited on 20-Jun-2023 16:48:42 by itsjohnor

itsjohnor

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After doing some investigation into this "marrentil botting" I have noticed a script flaw, the pet rock being used on the floor which is a permenant floor item is being used in order to stop a glitch with in the script.

This glitch, stops users from lighting the right side of the altar, but lights the left, making the host end up logging out.

Maybe if jagex stoped pet rocks from being droped perment this would fix it?

20-Jun-2023 18:20:09

capn j a z z

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I looked up this video you say was released 2 days ago... It's a video of you using a bot script and uploaded to your own yt account... probably not best to direct attention to that on the forum.

I will reiterate that I wish you the best of luck with the harassment part though. That's not okay and I hope it has stopped or subsided. As for some of the conspiracies, advertising a bot, and the POH changes, I politely disagree as elaborated in my prior comments

20-Jun-2023 23:53:07

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2023

0ffice Hours

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Jagex should look into somehow leveling the playingfield...

even if i keep running around and hosting there is no way for me to compete against:
- lighting bots so they are on almost 24/7
- advertising bots
- (til) advertisement board manipulation... (don't ask me how it works but somehow you can use (5?) alts to reshuffle the advertisement board and make sure you have the best spot

I will keep hosting to see if there are changes... but for now the imbalance makes it that my house has like 5-10 visitors per hour whilst being maxed and hosting daily

22-Jun-2023 13:08:45

capn j a z z

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0ffice Hours said :
Jagex should look into somehow leveling the playingfield...

even if i keep running around and hosting there is no way for me to compete against:
- lighting bots so they are on almost 24/7
- advertising bots
- (til) advertisement board manipulation... (don't ask me how it works but somehow you can use (5?) alts to reshuffle the advertisement board and make sure you have the best spot

I will keep hosting to see if there are changes... but for now the imbalance makes it that my house has like 5-10 visitors per hour whilst being maxed and hosting daily

Again, this works off the assumption that just because your name is at the top of the ad board, people will suddenly stop using the hosts they've used for years, talked to, rely on, donated to out of appreciation, etc. I think you're really downplaying the role of familiarity, and not being patient with building a community. Think: why would someone pick your house if they have 3-4 hosts they already know? Is it the ad board? Is it the incense bots? I think that's an important thing to consider when accusing others of cheating as the reason you only get 5-10 people in. Make sure to engage with them, maybe make a clan, maybe stream. Good luck!

22-Jun-2023 22:47:07

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2023

0ffice Hours

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0ffice Hours said :
Jagex should look into somehow leveling the playingfield...

even if i keep running around and hosting there is no way for me to compete against:
- lighting bots so they are on almost 24/7
- advertising bots
- (til) advertisement board manipulation... (don't ask me how it works but somehow you can use (5?) alts to reshuffle the advertisement board and make sure you have the best spot

I will keep hosting to see if there are changes... but for now the imbalance makes it that my house has like 5-10 visitors per hour whilst being maxed and hosting daily

Yet you are (always) downplaying the effect of
- lighting bots so they are on almost 24/7
- advertising bots
- (til) advertisement board manipulation..

as if it is all normal and nothing.... these are things legit players can't compete with...

Its the equivalent of you using a script that auto prayer switches at inferno and then telling the guy that is trying firecape for the first time "oh just do it and get good"
=> playing legit we can't compete against the cheating and corruption

23-Jun-2023 09:08:41 - Last edited on 23-Jun-2023 09:14:11 by 0ffice Hours

itsjohnor

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@RabbitMeds

I am currently muted in game for a long time, these hosts were using alt accounts to harass my mental health and I got wound up so yeah, I have now just exposed everything fully on youtube "fully".

The issue is still persisting and the users behind this bot and the the main host who is known for using it, is starting to become a troll and a bit of an annoynce.

If you could turn your private on in game, would be perfect.

If anyone sees any content online regarding "JohnoR" I ask that this content is reported fairly as I am under going a lot of in real life and in game harassment, thank you.

People can no longer say its fake now, the bot client is showing the script is showing, your movements are showing, your intervals are showing..your pretty much busted at this point, now its back to harassing "JohnoR" on social media...

23-Jun-2023 16:26:37

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