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Icycle

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A happy goy said :
I strongly support. The noobs that say "I don't support" are usually low level or kids that don't play enough to realize how it makes the game more interesting as it currently getting stale. All the noobs will say "power creep, power creep", I like the idea as I worked hard to achieve them pre-eoc.

For the record, here's some information on the players who have posted on this thread to date (before I make this post):
Players Supporting this Thread:
Yino: 2 forum posts (both on this thread), OSRS total level 871, RS3 total level 51
Dead Living: 36 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,252, RS3 total level RS3 total level 1,953
Reeces Pooof: 1 forum post, OSRS total level 940, RS3 total level 1,202
Ownage: 12,922 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,015, RS3 total level 1,546
Dong Piece: 18 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,059, not ranked on RS3 hiscore list???

Players Not Supporting this Thread:
Icycle: 1,409 forum posts, OSRS total level 971, RS3 total level 1,721
Avid Spar*: 18,563 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,010, RS3 total level 1,014
Barca: 3,145 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,198, RS3 total level 2,596
Experience: 1,752 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,485, RS3 total level 2,636



From this representative sample, there's a somewhat even spread of supporters and non-supporters by OSRS total level - and that's being generous because I'm the only moderate-level player on the does-not-support list.

@Dong Piece: I presume that you "worked hard to achieve" curses on a different account?

25-Apr-2016 17:05:17

Avid Sparx

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Icycle said :

Avid Spar*: 18,563 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,010, RS3 total level 1,014
I'd just like to add...that RS3 exp on my account? All gained in the 2 week membership trial I had it in...trying to prove to clanmates that the Air Guitar emote was achievable in that 2 weeks (and it is).

Soooo....yah, 1k RS3 levels achievable in 2 weeks...been 3 YEARS on OSRS getting that 2k+...in case anyone ever wants to argue how 'exp is just as easy to get in osrs duhurrr' 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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26-Apr-2016 02:29:30 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2016 00:33:01 by Avid Sparx

Performs
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no support, curses would unbalance the game, still need non degradable t70 mage gear as well as mage and range piety equivalents.

curses were also not released until 2009 after summoning was released so it made bones less expensive as people could do longer trips to bank them increasing the number of bones gathered per hour.

Currently 70-95 prayer costs about 358.5m osrs, in 2009 when curses were released dbones were about 2k each compared to the 3200 they are in osrs. This means in 2009 when people were training pray for curses it was 224m cash. So no you are incorrect in your statement that introducing curses would benefit the economy, as bones would become more expensive whereas by 2009 they were on a downward trend.

edit: im like 1540 total on osrs and like 2650 something on rs3
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26-Apr-2016 05:28:03 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2016 05:33:52 by Performs

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I like the idea of high level prayers like curses in OSRS but ONLY if it would be nerfed versions of the original ancient curses (I'm look at you especially, soulsplit.) because let's be honest they would be very overpowered in the old school environment. As Yino said there's is no late very late game rewards towards prayer. Getting level 90+ just seems to be a waste unless you're rolling in gp's.

26-Apr-2016 14:42:26

Yino

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Performs said :
no support, curses would unbalance the game, still need non degradable t70 mage gear as well as mage and range piety equivalents.

curses were also not released until 2009 after summoning was released so it made bones less expensive as people could do longer trips to bank them increasing the number of bones gathered per hour.

Currently 70-95 prayer costs about 358.5m osrs, in 2009 when curses were released dbones were about 2k each compared to the 3200 they are in osrs. This means in 2009 when people were training pray for curses it was 224m cash. So no you are incorrect in your statement that introducing curses would benefit the economy, as bones would become more expensive whereas by 2009 they were on a downward trend.

edit: im like 1540 total on osrs and like 2650 something on rs3


For the record, the information you have present is incomplete. Back in late 2009-2013, I played under a different account and I have done enough dragons to have enough credit to assure you one thing: Dragon bones had risen from 2k in the early 2009s and stabilized to 5k for the majority of 2010 and 2011. It was even as expensive as 7k at one point during one point. Onward, prices have been stable around 4-6k until the release of EoC and after, which crashed the market of RS. The steady rise of prices comes after the release of Curses, and helped make the economy blossom, that is, unless you meant the economy by your wallet, then I can see why you say it doesn't help.

edit: As for the chronological order of "augury" and "vigor", those were added to the game much later, after the dungeoneering update. In terms of that as a basis, curses should take precedence over those prayers, however, I do agree that they both should be added in as well. The pessimistic idealist

26-Apr-2016 23:21:10 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2016 00:49:56 by Yino

58pown1974

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Icycle said :
A happy goy said :
I strongly support. The noobs that say "I don't support" are usually low level or kids that don't play enough to realize how it makes the game more interesting as it currently getting stale. All the noobs will say "power creep, power creep", I like the idea as I worked hard to achieve them pre-eoc.

For the record, here's some information on the players who have posted on this thread to date (before I make this post):
Players Supporting this Thread:
Yino: 2 forum posts (both on this thread), OSRS total level 871, RS3 total level 51
Dead Living: 36 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,252, RS3 total level RS3 total level 1,953
Reeces Pooof: 1 forum post, OSRS total level 940, RS3 total level 1,202
Ownage: 12,922 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,015, RS3 total level 1,546
Dong Piece: 18 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,059, not ranked on RS3 hiscore list???

Players Not Supporting this Thread:
Icycle: 1,409 forum posts, OSRS total level 971, RS3 total level 1,721
Avid Spar*: 18,563 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,010, RS3 total level 1,014
Barca: 3,145 forum posts, OSRS total level 2,198, RS3 total level 2,596
Experience: 1,752 forum posts, OSRS total level 1,485, RS3 total level 2,636



From this representative sample, there's a somewhat even spread of supporters and non-supporters by OSRS total level - and that's being generous because I'm the only moderate-level player on the does-not-support list.

@Dong Piece: I presume that you "worked hard to achieve" curses on a different account?

I don't get what OSRS total level has anything to do with credibility. I've been playing since 06 and if anyone on this post knows what balance in RS is it's someone with 10 years of experience under their belt like me. I agree with the fact that curses were in fact over powered but a solution would be to add nerfed versions or (cont.1)

27-Apr-2016 02:22:40

58pown1974

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(cont.2) something along the lines of that. I don't see any negative impact on the economy. It would increase the price of bones very much at first yes but it would calm down after a while and at the very most keep bone prices (Dragon Bones) within 5k - 6k once the hype calms down. I like the idea of seeing bones as a better way of making money I see nothing wrong with that. Overall I only see benefit from adding curses or something different from curses since we don't have the quests for curses specifically. As long as it's not as strong as they were/are in RS2/RS3.

27-Apr-2016 02:27:55

Avid Sparx

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58pown1974 said :

I don't get what OSRS total level has anything to do with credibility. I've been playing since 06 and if anyone on this post knows what balance in RS is it's someone with 10 years of experience under their belt like me.

...or like me, also with ten years playing...and others here, also with ten (or more) years in...

...so yah, that's not a selling point either ;)

For this game, it's rather clear some players want them...and some don't...but what I'm not seeing, is a clear supermajority supporting them. Which would be required to get them past a poll. 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
T. Pratchett, 1948-2015 RIP, you are missed

27-Apr-2016 02:59:19 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2016 03:02:12 by Avid Sparx

Icycle

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58pown1974 said :

I don't get what OSRS total level has anything to do with credibility. I've been playing since 06 and if anyone on this post knows what balance in RS is it's someone with 10 years of experience under their belt like me. I agree with the fact that curses were in fact ove

You're correct, OSRS total level has little to do with credibility. I was simply posting research to conclude whether or not Dong Piece's claim that those against adding curses tend to be newer, lower-level players. From my limited sample size, the trend seems to be the opposite.

Time playing Runescape isn't necessarily an indicator of credibility either. For instance, even if I could prove I started playing RS in 2003, you may or may not find my opinions more credible. They're only my opinions.

As for why I don't support adding curses, it's more a matter of power creep than direct economic impact. I would support nerfed, below-level-75 versions of curses.

27-Apr-2016 03:34:14

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