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Ninijatt
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PapaJon said :
The main issue with summoning is that people feel it made PvM too easy and not skilling. Certain familiars like your Rune Dragon would only worsen this. Besides, we've had a good amount of rehashes content anyways. This is because Pre-EoC had a lot of good concepts, but Jagex didn't like certain aspects of it. Zulrah was a rehashed QBD and the one attack they couldn't copy due to the platforms being different was copied onto Galvek from DS2. Since we have so much rehashed content, I want to get this one in too but it's so difficult since people are adamant on 126 being the max combat level and want pets to be the only familiars.

As a side note, check out this thread and comment please. I tried rehashing GWD with a fifth boss similar to Nex. Summoning wasn't the only good concept from Pre-EoC.


Yeah. People are super closed minded about it. That's why I'm working on proposing a new skill idea that takes the core concept of summoning and turns it into something new. That way, if it's under a different name, people won't cover their ears and say no without listening what I have to say first.

If you look ANYWHERE on this thread, you can see there's no shortage of that. I'm glad there's people like you though who will actually talk to me like a real person instead of just saying "No. Now, stop trying"

I'll check out your thread when I have time. Do we really not have god wars even though we have godswords? I wouldn't know since all I ever do is train cooking. That seems like the weirdest thing to me, we have the reward that the god wars is known for, but not the actual dungeon.

06-Mar-2018 11:21:42

PapaJon
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1. Ice barrage can miss but now that you bring it up, you do have a point.

2. Seems dumb to have a stat without a potion but support since it makes the suggestion better.

3. Personally, I just think there're more creative ways to go about it. I'll think about this one for a bit and get back to you on it.

4. I was only thinking it'd crash prayer potions, because people would be using summoning potions as a substitute but you clarified that they wouldn't be in this game so there's that.

5. Yeah, ikr. I'm going for Inferno right now. Besides, I was under the impression all of the summoning supporters only want BoB's.

6. The straw poll was linked in their twitch stream or something. I'll find it.
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06-Mar-2018 16:15:35

PapaJon
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About rehashed content, I was initially close-minded to a lot of content such as dungeoneering but we got a version that I'm fine with. The Twisted Bow isn't even a problem, because I had a friend who had the lowest states out of all of us but had the biggest bank. His stats were in the 80s except for his 30m ranged xp from the Twisted Bow he RWTed.

He ended up being click-bait lured for that bow, so RIP $1500 USD. I still don't know what a Twisted Bow is to this day but any RWTer is just gonna be a dumbass with it.

QBD? Zulrah is here without a 1/100 visage drop rate. Galvek copied the one mechanic that Zulrah physically couldn't due to the platform.

Fight Kiln? I hated that content, because everyone with maxed stats had the cape. The Infernal Cape is actually special.

The thing is that I initially started off close-minded but saw how they could take the concept and improve upon it.
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06-Mar-2018 16:18:53 - Last edited on 06-Mar-2018 16:20:59 by PapaJon

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PapaJon said :
He ended up being click-bait lured for that bow, so RIP $1500 USD. I still don't know what a Twisted Bow is to this day but any RWTer is just gonna be a dumbass with it.


Jesus, that's almost what I paid for my '98 Altima. Was it his own money or was it his parents'?

14-Mar-2018 07:00:13

PapaJon
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Fruitbooting said :
PapaJon said :
He ended up being click-bait lured for that bow, so RIP $1500 USD. I still don't know what a Twisted Bow is to this day but any RWTer is just gonna be a dumbass with it.


Jesus, that's almost what I paid for my '98 Altima. Was it his own money or was it his parents'?


Bro, idk but add my main "Im So Swole" in game. I don't wanna derail the OP's thread as funny as that story was. His friend also ended up losing his tbow (also RWTed) to a supposedly legit money doubler that doubled 200m.
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14-Mar-2018 07:28:19

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Personally, I would like to see Summoning come to Old School RuneScape, because I really enjoyed the skill. I liked familiars for their various benefits, and pets were a great cosmetic addition. I also prefer the 3-138 Combat system, as 130+ just looks pretty impressive to me.

But I understand why a lot of people wouldn't want Summoning brought to OSRS. It's quite a significant concept. Who knows, maybe they'll poll it one day!

14-Mar-2018 21:07:50

PapaJon
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Siskinnn said :
Personally, I would like to see Summoning come to Old School RuneScape, because I really enjoyed the skill. I liked familiars for their various benefits, and pets were a great cosmetic addition. I also prefer the 3-138 Combat system, as 130+ just looks pretty impressive to me.

But I understand why a lot of people wouldn't want Summoning brought to OSRS. It's quite a significant concept. Who knows, maybe they'll poll it one day!


Have you seen the Arceuus spellbook revamp? That's basically their attempt at rehashing it. As a strong opposer of summoning, I want to work something out with the OP due to this creativity. I think we could probably find something even better.
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15-Mar-2018 01:14:15

Ninijatt
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PapaJon said :
@OP

Is charm collecting something you really enjoyed? Because that's what the Arceuus spellbook revamp didn't have.


I did not, actually. I found it to be both tedious and unnecessary. In fact, it was the one thing I didn't like about the skill which is why it is not present in my version.

15-Mar-2018 09:33:30

PapaJon
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Ninijatt said :
PapaJon said :
@OP

Is charm collecting something you really enjoyed? Because that's what the Arceuus spellbook revamp didn't have.


I did not, actually. I found it to be both tedious and unnecessary. In fact, it was the one thing I didn't like about the skill which is why it is not present in my version.


Okay, could you list out everything you liked in it? I thought it was unique how summoning required money but also wasn't a buyable due to charms. That's one thing I really liked. I'll try to help find something that'd pass the polls.
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15-Mar-2018 16:01:09

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