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San
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Lvl3baebee said :
It does. I prefer randomly generated dungeons rather than randomly generated islands. Sailing is just a reskinned version of Dungeoneering, so I don't support. That's why it makes sense.
Well, aside from the fact that the islands in this design aren't randomly generated, there's also the fact that sailing has no set end goal per mission like dungeoneering (nor missions at all, so to speak), and that it has no reward shop like dungeoneering. Heck, the only particularly true similarities are that it's based on exploring. And if that's what's classed as reskinning, I might as well say that mining is a reskinned version of woodcutting, where you click a rock with a pickaxe rather than a tree with a hatchet.

Besides, as Avid said, you're getting raids in Zeah which will likely borrow a lot from dungeoneering. We aren't getting dungeoneering as it was in RS3. It just isn't going to happen. Not supporting sailing doesn't make it more likely we'll get dungeoneering. We're not getting it either way. Sailing

10-Apr-2016 23:27:27 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2016 23:27:48 by San

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I won't support Sailing anyway. I just said I'd prefer getting Dungeoneering rather than Sailing, I didn't say that we'll get Dungeoneering if I don't support Sailing.

Also, we won't get anything similar to Dungeoneering in Zeah. They will just copy/paste Raids from RS3. OSRS team is good at copy/pasting.

I'd like to see Dungeoneering polled anyway, even if it will be 10% in favour and 90% against it.

12-Apr-2016 21:41:56 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2016 21:43:30 by Lvl3baebee

San
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Well, you haven't yet said what it is you don't like about sailing, other than that you'd rather have dungeoneering. Difficult to take that any other way than meaning you think we'd be offered dungeoneering if we don't get sailing, as otherwise it's completely irrelevant.

So, since that's cleared up, for what reasons do you dislike sailing, relating to the actual idea itself? Sailing

13-Apr-2016 14:37:32

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San said :
This is a minigame, not a skill

The main reason why I think, if anything, sailing needs to be a skill rather than a minigame is that without being a skill many things don’t make sense. A sailing stat means that having a higher sailing level means:

-Players can unlock better boats
-Players can unlock better resource islands
-Players are better able to avoid dangers

Think of it in terms of another skill, for example strength. The strength stat means that a player who has spent more time training it can hit higher than somebody who hasn’t. That’s why sailing really needs to be a skill for this design to make sense. The sailing stats means that a player who has spent more time training can use better boats, go to better resource islands and be better able to avoid dangers.

While you have my full support content-wise, I feel that if Sailing was introduced as a skill rather than a minigame, then effectively people would be "forced" to play it if they want to max.

Some players (especially mains) might find this hard to digest and would likely vote no, even if the content was good. Similar to what we have seen back in 2010 when Dungeoneering was released.

Regarding the part about unlocking more content as we progress to higher levels, a similar concept exists in Barbarian Assault. Perhaps it could be applied to Sailing as well.

28-May-2016 02:32:04

San
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Thanks for the reply, Iron. You raise some valid points.

I can imagine that yes, some people that are going for max might not want an extra skill to have to train. But if that were the case, I would ask those players - can they honestly say they're enjoying maxing? I mean, it's only a game, you don't have to do anything. If anything, you'd think somebody that skills for enjoyment would be happy with another skill to train. To dislike it because they would be "forced" to train it... seems like they're treating the game as work.

As to BA, yes, you could certainly regard the BA system as a sort of pseudo-skill. But then I think it becomes somewhat a question of scale. I think BA can get away with it because there really isn't that much progression - certainly not enough to fill 99 levels of it. I think sailing could easily fill most of the 99 levels with content alone, and that's not even including how this design has progression at every level (increasing ability to avoid dangers, and the like). By that point, sailing as a minigame-tied stat would have so much progression it'd essentially be a skill in all but name. Sailing

28-May-2016 17:52:00 - Last edited on 28-May-2016 17:52:31 by San

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Funny thing is some people actually do treat this game as work for reasons we could never understand. I thought one job was tough enough...

On topic: I agree with your points and I'd very much like to see Sailing implemented as a skill. But just in case the poll fails, I'd rather have it as a minigame than to see all that content go to waste. Of course, conversely, implementing Sailing as a minigame would destroy any chances of it ever becoming a skill. So I guess there are two sides to every coin...

28-May-2016 18:30:16

San
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spirdark said :
So I saw the dev post from 2015 but I haven't kept up with the progress of sailing. Is jagex still planning on making this skill a reality? And if so do you know how much longer until it's released?

Also support ;)
Thanks!

The first poll, from last year, did not pass so as of yet sailing is not going to be added. However, they stated that some things about the design could be changed and it may be repolled in the future. That was a while back, though, and I've not been keeping up with things so I'm not sure what the latest is. Sailing

23-Jun-2016 16:10:51 - Last edited on 23-Jun-2016 16:11:02 by San

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