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Tenebri
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your literal reason as to why its ruining the game, shows it cant be

you have said people buy bonds for members. if the prices were too high they wouldnt be able to do it.

yet they obviously are. as they are being bought and sold constantly.

the demand is high for them, because its working as intended.
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21-Jul-2023 00:00:00

Tenebri
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mastercast3r said :
Tenebri said :
prices today range from 7900k - 8.9m Even your graph says it does not sell below 8m.

Tenebri said :
work doing what skills? i dont know what you are talking about this. fishing can make money but it takes a long time. WC can even make enough money to cover a bond in 2 weeks. Fletching will if you are high enough level in 95 hours.

Tenebri said :
it sure does come down. yes, it does up, they sell and it goes down and they buy, but not as far as it was before. Every time it goes up it hits a new record and ever time it falls, the bottom is higher.

THAT is manipulation.


the graph literally shows under 8m.



its below 8m right there dude.

here you can use the link to the site that gives live price updates
https://prices.runescape.wiki/osrs/item/13190


that is not manipulation in the slightest, thats how prices of items go. they will steadily go up or down. depending on a number of factor of things.

every single item does this. it is not manipulation.

price that goes up gradually like this, can easily be attributed to inflation.... nothing to do with manipulation.


can you please provide sources for your numbers like i have?

if not i can be bothered with carrying on this conversation.
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21-Jul-2023 00:03:34 - Last edited on 21-Jul-2023 00:08:50 by Tenebri

mastercast3r
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Tenebri said :
again you have somehow got to 100k with out any other data. As I said, I took runescape data showing they sell 5-8k bonds a day and multiplied it by 14 days. That will get you 70 to 112k. So maybe it is only 90k players that they will lose

Tenebri said :
100% false. i literally posted a link on ftp money makers. Yea, and as I have said, I have tried many of those and unless you are a high level skiller and are some how very lucky, you can not hope to get the amounts they say. As an example, they will tell you that you will get 100k an hour for something that requires you to buy the items you need for 48 hours before you have enough for an hour due to the buy limits. That means you can not do it every day many times a day.

Tenebri said :
that sounds like an issue with you not the data. IF it was just me, than yea, but look at the comments and EVERYONE is saying it is not reasonable.

Tenebri said :
nope if mercher can get them so can you, ge works that way. ONLY if you know what price they put the buy at. or get lucky enough to swipe one.

Tenebri said :
they use to be lvl 3 low lvl skiller, they made all the money needed to get billions of xp as a lvl 3 skiller. so you saying skillers cant make gp, is proven wrong here. Yea, if you are a bot working 100 hours a day. Level 3 means non combat, but getting 200m in a skill requires that you do nothing else, meaning you have no life in or out of the game.

21-Jul-2023 00:09:52

mastercast3r
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Tenebri said :
why do you think they are playing 100 hours a week? they just know how to play efficiently. this game has been out for many years. How many years have they been at 200m? Some of them got it so fast they had to play 100 hours a week or more.

Tenebri said :
you just outright ignore it. No, I pointed out your flaws. One of them was a graph that said the bottom was 8m and you said they sold for 7.9 mil. Another proved my point that the prices are being manipulated.

Tenebri said :

more than that NO, that is the only limit a skiller has. We do all the skills and that is what makes us different than skiller pures that do not do combat. Do you call all pkers a defense pure? No, because not every pker has 1 defense. Why do you think skillers do not do combat when there is a totally separate group called skiller pures.

21-Jul-2023 00:15:47

mastercast3r
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Tenebri said :
just because they have gone up. doesnt mean is manipulation or merchers... The prices have been more or less stable for 10 years. Yes, they
GRADUALLY
went up, but suddenly for no reason they skyrocketed 2 million gps in less than 2 months.

WHY?


There is no difference between this year and last. No reason for the prices to jump 2 million gps. I tried to find a reason why, but every reason I had got shot down and then I had a merchant bragging they were going to force the prices up to 15 mil.

Tenebri said :
anglerfish is 220k gp hour. Have you TRIED fishing anglerfish? I spent 3 weeks fishing anglerfish. The best I got was 190k and that was with a 99 fishing account. Others barely got 150k.

Tenebri said :
41 hours to buy a bond at its highest prices. 45 hours for 2 weeks is a part time boring job.


Tenebri said :
if you know your game time per week dont do something that doesnt make enough Fishing is one of the best gps in the game. Since I do not do bossing, or pking, thats the best there is. Which is why I will likely be leaving for another game soon.

21-Jul-2023 00:27:15

mastercast3r
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Tenebri said :
your literal reason as to why its ruining the game, shows it cant be

you have said people buy bonds for members. if the prices were too high they wouldnt be able to do it.

yet they obviously are. as they are being bought and sold constantly.

the demand is high for them, because its working as intended. what demand? More players? Nope. we are having fewer and fewer online all the time. The new skill? Nope not happening until next years. A new quest? never caused a 2 million jump for 2 months and every jump followed a huge correction.

And you are right. They have gone too high and now we are going to be leaving soon as we get tired of the manipulation and jagex ignoring our problems. Enjoy your combat only game.

21-Jul-2023 00:30:25

mastercast3r
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Tenebri said :
the graph literally shows under 8m. Yea, it fell for a few seconds to about 7999995. That is a long way form 7900k. It means there was ONE person that bought a bond below 8 mil.

As I said, I took it from runescape data. If that is not good enough, then bye.

21-Jul-2023 00:34:49 - Last edited on 21-Jul-2023 00:35:16 by mastercast3r

Tenebri
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mastercast3r said :
Tenebri said :
prices today range from 7900k - 8.9m Even your graph says it does not sell below 8m.




literally to show you, i bought a bond overnight for 7.9m




happy now?


mastercast3r said :


Tenebri said :
nope if mercher can get them so can you, ge works that way. ONLY if you know what price they put the buy at. or get lucky enough to swipe one.



you have that data, i literally gave you a link of live prices

if merchers know the prices, so can you.


either way i think im done with this thread now. i even spent 7.9m of my own gp
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21-Jul-2023 08:14:56 - Last edited on 21-Jul-2023 08:17:00 by Tenebri

mastercast3r
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I have admitted that it is dropping and rising but it is being manipulated by merchants. I never said it was not impossible to buy them. I could always put up 10 mil and buy one. The point is, it is still way to high. 7.9 mil is twice what it should be.

21-Jul-2023 15:22:04

mastercast3r
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What you are obviously not willing to understand is that people do not play the game to make you rich. They do not play the game to make the game fun for you. Having to do something boring for 80 hours or more every two weeks just to earn the right to spend 80 hours to buy another bond is not fun.

This account can not fish anglerfish. I spend the last 3 weeks trying to get his levels up to do so and I am still weeks away and my membership runs out in 3 days. There is no skill I can do that can pay 7.9 mil every two weeks without it being a total mental destruction.

Obviously you combat only players and jagex moderators do not care about their players base. You obviously only see us as some drones that work just to make you happy. Good luck when those drones are all gone.

21-Jul-2023 18:33:07

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