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What you just said is so idiotic it hurts my head. Please go pickup Business 101, and then read on how to make money efficiently. You'll see major game isn't going to ask for donations. Also one of the main reasons Solomon store updates cost money, is the fact they take effort to make. You'll also read in your Business 101, that development teams, coders, and concept art does cost money if you plan on hiring people to do the work. Stop complaining, if you even read why the Solomon store exist, it's because people want better cosmetics. It's quite obvious Jagex isn't going to make a huge mini-game, or quest for every piece of cosmetic clothing they make, because it's to cost worthy. So just accept what has come to happen, and get over it, because it is what the players wanted.

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Snowfellow

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[#4VU7PXU6T] said :
3)
-Jagex has even dedicated whole servers to roleplaying, so they can't deny it isn't a part of the game.


This is a MMORPG
A Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game.
I'd be mad if they didn't have role-playing servers. Servers that, I may add, we had to fight for! To my knowledge there was not always a role-playing server, but we got Jagex to listen and give us one, and now! We have finally gotten one for the free players!

If Jagex were to deny role-playing as part of the game, they'd have to be stupid.

Most of us role-players love our cosmetics and will continue to buy them. If you don't like them, don't buy them. And if you honestly think this is all some conspiracy for them to sell exp to players and other things to allow them to succeed, then you can quit, simple as that.

05-Aug-2013 18:36:38

War tortoise
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[#4VU7PXU6T] said :
@GrannyWbands: If Jagex wanted loyal players to show their support, they could just add a "Donate" button or function of some sort that does not offer an advantage by awarding the players. By rewarding the players with cosmetics for their donations, Jagex is clearly favouring those with more expendable cash over those that pay their normal membership.

Also, this is the Solomon's Store forum, so obviously an anti-SoF thread would be locked here.


if they added a donate button, I'd never use it since I get no benefit from donating really (I mean direct instant benefit, like an outfit or a cosmetic weapon without stats, not a promise that xupdate is coming faster...)... I'd be better of buying multiple subscriptions.
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06-Aug-2013 05:13:20 - Last edited on 06-Aug-2013 05:14:20 by War tortoise

[#4VU7PXU6T]

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War tortoise said :


if they added a donate button, I'd never use it since I get no benefit from donating really (I mean direct instant benefit, like an outfit or a cosmetic weapon without stats, not a promise that xupdate is coming faster...)... I'd be better of buying multiple subscriptions.


Earlier you stated that you wanted to support the game, but now you are stating that you would be unwilling to "support" the game you love if Jagex was not handing out these benefits with your "support". Is there any particular reason that you want these cosmetics if they offer no advantage at all in the game? Is it to look cool? Would the cosmetics be as valuable if every player in the game had them? If no, then you are getting an advantage from your purchases.


@Snowstar: I am in favor of your position. I said that roleplayers are disadvantaged by the update because now people need to spend irl cash to be able to better roleplay certain characters or the roleplaying community will look down on them.

08-Aug-2013 18:12:13

Victus Thrax

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An excellent analysis of the situation at hand except for the "stockholm sydrome" thing we are players not captives lol and i do concur that excessive micro-transaction business is real world trading and development on such content can cause game development to slow down or in desperate situations even have players pay for "expansions" much like world or warcraft. But you must head your reckless rush onto solomon's store as it is very harmless from my understanding even with your presented evidence. And i do understand what you are getting at with bring up examples of other games such as maple story but you have nothing to worry about. In other words Chill dude lol.

11-Aug-2013 23:06:39

Wizz Luis

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I agree with you. I'm okay with having outfits in Solomon's General Store, but bank space and pets that give advantages is going too far. It's sad that even the first skilling animations were put in the store, they would have been a great FREE game update... and they wonder why they have under 75k players now at a time...*****;****;

11-Aug-2013 23:48:23

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yall need to calm down, paying for cosmetics in a game is a common thing, and as long as it is purely cosmetic, then what's the problem? if your life is so consumed by runescape that this is such a big issue in your life, then you need to wake up.

i really dont understand how something that is purely cosmetic is harmful to the game. i understand there are a few items that give a perk or something, and i understand your anger about that. However, there are many games out there that are COMPLETELY free, and the only money spent by the players is for purely cosmetic items. PoE is a great example.

Now I just recently returned from being away from Runescape for a year or two, and may be missing a few points in your arguement, but i think the sgs is a great idea. that one thing that runescape was always missing, and people craved, was ways to stand out. customization. everyone fought and skilled to get the best gear, and everyone looked the same. everyone hated looking the same.

now you can have the best gear, and look different from everyone else. heck, there are now so many types of armor, you can look different in all sorts of gear. thats a huge step for runescape, and many other games could learn from that as well.

as for player numbers being down, that may have some to do with updates etc, but, the biggest reason, and i know some of the older players like me, esp from the beginning, 01 and 02 etc, will agree on. is that games change. you cant have an online community game for over 10 years and keep it the same. games change and evolve. it IS runescape 3 after all. i remember when mithril was out, and andrew and ian were tackling the release of adam into the game. during this time there was one server and you had to fight to log in, hoping someone logged out. back to my point. games change, and people ask where have all the loyal players gone?

we grew up, we lived our life. i started runescape in 01 when i was 14. continued on next post

15-Aug-2013 04:03:22

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continued from the previous post. we grew up, we lived our life. i started runescape in 01 when i was 14. im 26 now, i have a daughter, i was a marine in iraq and afghanistan for 4 years. do you think we would all still be playing runescape all our lives? some of us come back now and then, some of us dont. that means a new crowd comes in. you guys. and there is no way in hell they can satisfy all of you and keep you entertained like they could back when we were kids. you guys want different things. thats why numbers are down, its a different market nowadays. you guys want so much more than what runescape USED to have.

and the arguement that f2p doesnt have anything. thats bull right there. f2p has a hell of a lot more than it used to. if you were a mage or ranger in f2p, you used to be screwed, the best you had was hard leather and blue wizard robes. against players in rune armor. you guys have no idea how good it is now. f2p is amazing compared to what it used to be.

and again, i may be missing a bunch of points in your arguement, I know that there are a few items being sold that give an advantage. selling bank space for one, i honestly think thats a great idea. p2p already gets more bank space, why not sell a bit more? you're already buying more items, you're gonna need more bank space.

so you guys need to seriously rethink what you are doing here if this is the biggest issue in your life right now. yea yea i know its summer, you dont have anything else better to do (if youre not school age, sorry, not meant for you lol) but come on now. the day you have a college degree and over a decade of experience running a global internet business, is the day you can tell jagex how to run their business. ruenscape used to be a server that andrew and ian made to play with their buddies, and now look at where they are.

so yea i guess thats my two cents, take it or leave it. i hope a few older players read this and enjoy it. i know it will get flamed, i dont care.

15-Aug-2013 04:15:51

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