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murrozond

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Dizzly i dont think anyone takes you seriously because you spam every thread with your anti jagex stuff. @bro, i spent 40 bucks on the dwarven suit and i bought monarch,cabaret,kril godcrusher,dragon keepsake keys,tokhaar cus i like the look,im glad Jagex made this

15-Jan-2013 18:09:25

Chaot1cstorm
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Okay, i got one of these damned things just because i happen to run out of membership durring the promo that lets you get one free with a 100 day card... I'll never buy any solomons crap.

And you know what they give? Baby dragon bones and irits... It's true that they give an ingame advantage... But since you have to spam click the thing for this that means you won't be able to do other stuff... So if you really wanna complain about this, I guess Technically it does give an advantage... But since it is far more effective to do ANYTHING else on this game than it is to spam forage on the pet.. I think time would be much more well spent screaming about sof... Because that really does give a decent unfair advantage...

15-Jan-2013 18:25:03

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@Moruzond: Thanks for proving that people in this game do care about looks and thus it provides an advantage. Either that, or you're trying to show off how rich you are.

@Chaoticstorm: True, but the store offers more advantages than the pets which you can read about in the OP. The pets are just the one advantage that people that care only about gold and resources will be able to relate to a bit.

@Ytk675: Calm yo ass down, it's just a thread.

@x Marusha x: If the business is of players playing a game, then that is what it should do best and that is where an overwhelming majority of its resources should be focused.

@Dizzylegends: Don't listen to the guys complaining about your Rants. Ranting is healthy for any game.

@stormpeaks1: I'm sorry if English isn't your first language, but that was really difficult to read (another rant: re-implement the other language forums). Anyways, you have your priorities, which are cash and hits, and I respect that, but other people in this game care more about looks and such. I also recommend the playing of other games such as Dark Souls and Guild Wars 2 just to escape from the madness that is Jagex.

16-Jan-2013 03:22:42

Tyler D

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"--|From Mod Emilee in 309-310-1-63885289:
---|Why are you charging for items?
The new Customisation System requires a lot more development effort per item, and we're also taking longer when making the content to make sure it's extra special. By charging for the items themselves it means we don't pass on these costs on to those who aren't interested in using them. "
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How much more effort can it really take? =/ Go on the forums, read what people would like in game, sell it in sgs. (Referencing expanding bank space and people saying they want something that will pick up charms, and they release pets that have the ability to sorta do that, not sure how effective it is though.)

17-Jan-2013 05:19:39

Legionnaire

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1. Encourages Jagex? So are you saying that people who post suggestion that deal with the game are encouraging Jagex to update the game. The same is apply to SGS, posting encourages them, so what. Least they are listening to their players for a change. Anything can be classified as encouraging Jagex, those who used the loyalty shop are encouraging them to update it, but they haven'.t

2. What Jagex is doing is not RWTing, it's called micro-transactions and are not classified as RWTing. RWTing is selling/buying items from a 3rd party company not selling things through an item shop owned by the company. It's not RWTinig.

3. Looks do not give any sort of advantage to how a player a looks. I brought costumes off the loyalty shop because I wanted some new costumes to wear around and I outdid the random event costumes and holiday costumes. So you're saying that buying items that are costumes are giving me in-game advantage, when they do not give me any benefit nor extra stats. That is illogical.

4. A cash shop in that game they are selling xp boosters, teleport rocks, and special weapons which is in-game advantage not what SGS or SoF is doing.

5. By spending money on this game you are in fact helping the company make money which then allows them to expand the game at a better rate than before. By using the SoF, SGS, playing the game and buying membership you are helping the company.

6. Highly doubtful, new animations and/or new cosmetics will still be added into the game and even if they do add new costumes and/or animations into the game how does that affect you? Quite frankly the new animations in SGS are quite bad.

7. No it is not RWTing in Runescape nor any game that has an item shop.

"Real world trading (RWT), also called real world item trading (RWIT), or real money trading, is the act of trading anything outside of RuneScape (usually real world money) for RuneScape items or services, or vice versa. Legally, every item in RuneScape is the property of Jagex,
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17-Jan-2013 16:21:41

Legionnaire

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and therefore cannot be considered as personal property of the player. Players who conduct RWT violate rule 12, and may risk being permanently banned without warning"

They own the SoF, SGS and Runescape. What they sell in the game is not classified as RWTing.


SoF: It's not a huge advantage, a player who trains his skills can still be better than one who buy spins and even then the chances are slim at getting anything worthwhile.

SGS: It's a cosmetic store that sells costumes and animations that do not give any advantage to a player. If you classify players who have their character look better than yours than you are sadly mistaken and need to understand what an advantage does. I seen players who use the regular clothe store to make their character look good, and some of them look better than mine, so they must have an advantage over me because they look better than I do.

Extremely illogical to believe that just because a person looks better than you in a game means they have an advantage over you, no it could mean they just took extra time to make their character look good. An advantage would be selling xp potions in SGS and/or powerful weapons in SGS not looks.

Bank booster, sure it gives you extra bank spaces but then again that doesn't really make it much more advantage over another. I still have over 400 spaces left in my bank space.

Conclusion: Jagex is not RWTing by having SoF and SGS nor can you classify it as RWting because they own the game. Not only that, but looks do not give you an advantage over another player unless of course you believe having the best costume makes them better at the game than you are.
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17-Jan-2013 16:21:51 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2013 16:29:03 by Legionnaire

stormpeaks1

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im not 100% against sof only the buy more spins part that lures from addiction.
true myn first language is dutch :)
I know that sometimes they do let kids bingo or other kind of games but that is often not financially own gain without I see no danger and it is basically harmless

17-Jan-2013 18:23:01 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2013 18:31:04 by stormpeaks1

TzKal-Mej

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Frankly I see nothing wrong with the game other than the amount of bots in game. I don't see how micro-transactions are ruining the game at all. "They're bad for MMOs with monthly fees." How about you prove this mathematically before suggesting it true. I think people would rather see truth then another complainer. Especially when it comes to Solomon's Shop.

18-Jan-2013 01:38:58 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2013 01:39:28 by TzKal-Mej

stormpeaks1

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and gambling is a problem and yes bot seems this game have the most bots that than other mmo's atleast the other game that i play ther some bots but not mutch in runescape.
and bot i think its in every mmos a problem and also not allowed

18-Jan-2013 02:05:09

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@Legion: Bro, we've debated this in the clan chat, I'll address you there seeing that you have a ton of points for me to respond to. You do make great points, though, so I will have to address them here soon.

stormpeaks1: I agree that gambling is bad.

Senex Magus: I'm not going to bother proving it mathematically seeing that I have no data on Jagex's revenue. I will however ask that you name any successful game that has a P2P system with a cash shop.

18-Jan-2013 20:15:43

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