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Eis jager

Eis jager

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for me if they actually put effort into other aspects of the game besdies these 2 new features it wouldnt be as bad but having it constantly shoved down my throat every week and no other aspects of the game getting attention and get quality updates that are actually tested to make sure they work properly and dont utterly destroy the game.
But by no means do i actually support solomons or yelps if i had it my way they would be gone never to be seen from again

10-Aug-2012 23:03:09 - Last edited on 10-Aug-2012 23:04:33 by Eis jager

Ecigna

Ecigna

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Then look at Squeal Wheel and tell me the same thing. I dare you.
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I mentioned later in the post that SOF and Solomon's General Store can't be compared, this thread is not discussing SOF, we are discussing Solomon's General Store. One is selling only cosmetics and one you have the option of purchasing spins for a high chance of obtaining experience.
The rest of your post is based off of assumption. I see no reason why Jagex would implement the option of purchasing experience or gold from the store if they know essentially everybody is against that.

10-Aug-2012 23:11:55

07 Doge

07 Doge

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"The rest of your post is based off of assumption. I see no reason why Jagex would implement the option of purchasing experience or gold from the store if they know essentially everybody is against that."
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Does Maplestory ring a bell? This is the same thing that happened and it didn't turn out so well.

10-Aug-2012 23:14:02

Ecigna

Ecigna

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You can't assume that just because Maplestory had an issue with their microtransactions (never played the game myself, but I've heard it countless times) that the same thing will happen to this game. I fail to realize your point.

10-Aug-2012 23:37:27

07 Doge

07 Doge

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IVP bought many shares into Maplestory and claimed to want to improve it. When the they got through with it, it had a microtransaction shop, exactly like Solomon's General Store and started out the same exact way. So many players quit because microtransaction dominated the game.
We are trying to prevent the crash in players before it begins.

10-Aug-2012 23:46:45 - Last edited on 10-Aug-2012 23:47:16 by 07 Doge

Ecigna

Ecigna

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Jagex has already received our feedback on the Store. For the most part, players support this as long as it is kept cosmetic and it would be foolish of anybody to implement the option of purchasing XP or money since they've (hopelessly) learned from their mistakes.

11-Aug-2012 00:40:47

Buttwhoopchi

Buttwhoopchi

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1) If the playerbase as a whole is fine with this, then it is good. If the playerbase is not fine, it is not. A fluff point.
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--BXPW is not happening anymore. Jagex dropped it for less time-intensive bonus exp methods such as Hati and Skoll.
--Loyalty points cost no extra money.
--Am I the only one who remembers players suggesting a cosmetic-only store as a good replacement for SoF? =\ And wasn't the original issue with Squeal the buyable-exp-and-money thing, not the cosmetic stuff?
I'll concede Runefest, game card promotions, Refer-a-friend, and Squeal, but it's not like Jagex has completely ignored us. Hell, the upcoming Evolution of Combat was born at least in part from the pleas of players for a rework (among other things, increased life points).
3) Conceded. At a minimum, give players a way to get 40 more free runecoins to get one full outfit.
4) Slippery slope fallacy. If it does come to Jagex selling "hyper teleport rocks" (which would be crazy even for them) then the game is toast. Until then, I'm not biting.
5) Jagex still gets 45% of the money spent on the costumes, and IVP still ends up feeding money back in. Pretty sure owning 55% of a company only gets you 55% of their net profits, not gross income.
6) At first I was gonna bat this away as idiotic drivel until I realized you didn't mean "quests will be bought with Runecoins". How I wish that was your argument, because then I'd have a counter. I'd like to say "Jagex wouldn't do that" but they've pulled crap before. Conceded, except for the Stockholm syndrome bit which I don't see how it relates.
7) Solomon's stuff (with the exception of the Achievement Banner) is neither gold nor items. This would be valid if we were talking Squeal (which is seriously WT*, we're agreed there) but Solomon ain't Squeal.
Not as bad of an argument against Solomon as I thought at first, but still a few issues.

11-Aug-2012 01:34:54

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