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Turksta said :
Not true. When i bought a laptop i wish i got the black rose gold colour instead of the silver colour i purchased. I couldn't afford it back then. Although i'm satisfied with my laptop in the sense i can use it, I still desire the rose gold laptop a lot and have thoughts of one day selling my laptop to pursue the colour i wanted. This i think is another good example of my statement - 'people want to own the exact item of whatever they desire, not an alternative '

Sure, giving me a blue coloured santa suit might make me happy. But i'm still going to ask for a green coloured santa suit that i always want

I don't think you understand: yes, X alternate version might not satisfy everyone who desire after the original, but it'd satisfy some, and for those who weren't satisfied, Y, Z etc alternate versions, or even entirely new cosmetics, could be made, sooner or later satisfying the rest of them. Because the thing is that the human mind cannot fully comprehend something that doesn't yet exist, so while some people might even genuinely claim that only a certain cosmetic will ever satisfy them, that simply cannot be because true perfection like that does not exist. There can always be something else that you'll like more, you might just not realize it yet if you focus too much on what already exists and miss the forest for the trees.


Turksta said :
People don't desire it for its rarity if they want to own it at the expense of making it less rare. They might go "hey i finally got another chance at owning this rare item. But they don't care if they make it less rare if it means they can own it

There are people who desire something because they cannot have it, which is what I'd classify under "rarity desiring" because typically that is due to the desired thing being rare.
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26-Aug-2019 18:56:15 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2019 19:16:28 by Sharp-shin

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Turksta said :
Memories don't stop the desire to reobtain it for satisfaction. If i had a toy as a child and i really wanted it. I'm probably gonna rebuy it even if its incredibly expensive.

Yeah but again, people who want to own them for the memories should already have them: e.g. I have my memories of the 2011 Xmas event, and surprisingly, I also have the Xmas wand for having completed that event... because it was a reward for completing what I have memories of. If your account was banned or you otherwise lost access to it, again, that's unfortunate, but also kind of your responsibility, so it shouldn't be grounds for a rerelease.


MapleStory said :
The most logical thing to do would actually be to make them all tradeable, as then the owners could decide for themselves if they cared enough about the item to keep it for themselves, or gift it to the next generation/sell it to make a quick buck. But then you see, that would just create more problems in the Runescape economy from the huge influx of new discontinued rares.

Jagex made the right decision, speaking words of wisdom: Let it be!

I mean that's a fair point about decision-making, but it'd also make the historical value of the item lose it partially, because you wouldn't be able to tell anymore who originally earned the discontinued item.
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26-Aug-2019 19:03:52

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Whatusaytome said :
Rubber Turkey is hardly noticeably different from the chicken.


You're not fooling anyone, I can see right through you. You're not arguing in good faith (or just a plain liar), Rubber Turkey is very obviously different from Rubber Chicken. For one the colors are clearly different, the head shape has been modified and the Rubber Chicken can whack people while the Rubber Turkey can not. You'd have to be blind to confuse one for the other.



Here's another good example that just happened to walk by while I was taking pictures.

This is an example of a Remake, or more accurately Reissue, done right. The Ghostly Outfit Variants are the absolute bare bones, minimal effort pallet swap, but they are distinct enough to clearly tell the difference.

But again I must reiterate: Jagex should not be rehashing decades old content. They are already a laughing stock of the gaming community and have a piss poor reputation for being greedy and creatively bankrupt. They should instead (And this appears to be the direction they are taking/what they are currently doing), create modern day versions of classic items using all the HD graphics and advanced modelling we have today.

26-Aug-2019 20:00:12 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2019 20:30:36 by MapleStory

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Yes, clearly side by side there is a difference. But when they arent it's not noticable. When they came out, I was not informed, I didn't care to follow every goddamn update every day ever. I saw people with the turkeys and thought they'd rereleased the rubber chicken. So quit acting like a know it all bitch, kay? You dont see through anything.

There should be no issue at all rehashing old content, especially when Jagex got a green light via a poll to do just that. They dont need your permission anymore, they already got it from the majority of the people in runescape. and they dont need to do it differently just to please an entitled twat either.

Now answer my questions. Why was the snow globe okay? Why arent you so highly offended by that coming back with no design changes?

Why is the Easter ring different from it in terms of not being able to show off, that they cant redo that?

Why cant you keep to yourself and let people have a goddamn choice about what they want? You only want newly designed content for yourself so you can have multiple versions.

You dont care that anybody wants the old ones, even when a simple examine would be able to clarify whose is original.
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26-Aug-2019 20:42:20

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It's like you're incapable of grasping any higher concept beyond your own selfishness and greed. :\

There's no use trying to hide it, everyone in this thread can see your seething jealousy towards these objects. If it was all so meaningless as you claim, then you would not be so worked up over something that is essentially.. Frivolous Fashionscape flavor... Deep down you know their true value, which is why you have become so obsessed.

Timelessness, Visual Beauty, They are crafted with great care and attention to detail, to be desirable: What you are experiencing is the intended effect. Designed to be desirable, in part to motivate participation in the holiday event, to commemorate the occasion etc. It's understandable why a modern remake will not suffice, only the real thing will do.

Whatusaytome said :

Late edit, I dont care if i look like an ass to you for wanting people to have a choice. They didn't choose to miss the events and the events arent important content. The event died, it doesnt exist, it doesnt matter for anything about you anymore.


The event died but the reward is a piece of that moment in time that lives on with the player that participated -into the future of Runescape.

Don't be a fool, I am an entity of this game. I can read you like an open book: You want these items, not for others but for yourself. You are unworthy.

26-Aug-2019 21:34:02 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2019 21:45:48 by MapleStory

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I dont even play this game anymore lmfao. I enjoy the forums of the game I use to love to play because I dont want entitled elitists trying to run Jagex into only updating the game by elitist standards.

Runescape, in terms of actually playing it, would be a waste of my time. I've spent literally over 15000 hours between 3 of my accounts playing this game which I don't have the luxury of doing anymore.

So yes, I only want this specifically because the majority want this. The majority voted yes when Jagex asked if they could rehash this specific old content. Then supposedly according to Draco, the feedback, by said elitists, is why Jagex hasn't done it yet. Which to me, is a bullshit and selfish reason.

I dont accept elitism and entitlement, especially on such miniscule content that doesnt make you any better.

So again, answer my questions. Please.
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26-Aug-2019 22:37:56

Whatusaytome
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As for participating in the events. You realise many holidays this game celebrates are typically celebrated with family in real life, right? Many people go on vacations during Christmas times and such, and are often forced to miss these events because they don't prioritize runescape over family.

You dont give people their own choice, like Jagex has offered to make an option for. You refuse it because you feel personally offended by that offer, and not because these items mean anything to you. You only want new content that adds to your collection, and you don't care about anybody else.

You don't support Jagex and you call them a Joke among gaming companies, for wanting to offer old content to the people forced into missing it. You dont like second chances. You dont like people getting a chance at replicas, which in the name itself is a notable change that can't be mistaken as an original. You demand it be remade entirely.

Key word on all of that is: You.
Selfish.
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26-Aug-2019 22:42:55

Turksta

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Whatusaytome said :
The most logical solution is to give people their choice in whether they want this old content or not.
+1.
Whatusaytome said :
I'd rather satisfy more people.

Agreed. What % of the actual remaining players that have logged on once in the past 3 years actually own the older holiday items? some statistics would be interesting.

31-Aug-2019 15:46:57

Turksta

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"yes, X alternate version might not satisfy everyone who desire after the original, but it'd satisfy some, and for those who weren't satisfied, Y, Z etc alternate versions, or even entirely new cosmetics, could be made, sooner or later satisfying the rest of them. "

X alternative will only satisfy players who don't really care about holiday items and only want a particular item because they've missed out on it. Y and Z alternatives etc would 'satisfy' more people. but at the end of the day as long as players don't have the original, the original will be desired. So ultimately, as long as players want the originals, they aren't truly satisfied with the supposedly newer versions. And this thread (along with players asking for older holiday items) is evidence that the newer event rewards aren't satisfying as the old event rewards.


"There are people who desire something because they cannot have it, which is what I'd classify under "rarity desiring" because typically that is due to the desired thing being rare."
>.. There are also people who just want a snow globe because they just want to be able to throw snowballs at others at will or be able to fight back. It's called wanting to have fun


"If your account was banned or you otherwise lost access to it, again, that's unfortunate"
Some ppl made newer accounts like ironman accounts. It'd be nice and convenient for them to be able to enjoy older items on newer accounts. If u buy a new house, would u buy everything all over again? or would u rather move the furniture and items from the older house to the newer house. What about a phone. when u upgrade ur phone ud also like to transfer the old cotnacts and music and what not onto the new phone

31-Aug-2019 16:08:50

Turksta

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@Maplestory, i believe the rubber chicken and turkey are quite similar in terms of appearance (overall shape) if thats what whatyousaytome was trying to get at. I'm not quite sure why you two are so aggressive towards eachother but lets try to keep it civil for the sake of the thread.

The ghostly chicken outfit is a good example of a alternate version but it was handed out completely unrelated to the time's holiday event which i'm fully against (as i dislike mtx holiday items being greater than the actual event items).

31-Aug-2019 16:20:11

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