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Pikachu78 said :
no blackwing your wrong thats what the vet capes are for ,the holiday items themselves have no real value as they are untradeable ,buying the override and wearing the one from the event is the same item in the end so it doesnt matter

Veteran capes only prove that your account was created X years or more ago, they don't prove anything about your actual playtime. Discontinued untradeable holiday items on the other hand prove that the account was played on during the respective event and that they completed it. Thus, only the untradeable holiday items have historical value, and veteran capes cannot replace them.
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03-Oct-2018 07:19:28

Whatusaytome
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Holiday Items show you were there for one event, they show nothing of your actual gameplay or veteran status. Veteran capes are no replacement for anything.

Historical Value is something the majority voted against, live with it. The majority would rather be able to work for their own scythe to place their own sentimental values on, rather than care about a "rare account" owning it instead. It doesn't benefit anybody, even that account, limiting the scythe to his account only.

Learn to care about somebody other than yourself for once, Blacktroll.
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03-Oct-2018 07:34:51

Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said :
Holiday Items show you were there for one event, they show nothing of your actual gameplay or veteran status. Veteran capes are no replacement for anything.

Historical Value is something the majority voted against, live with it. The majority would rather be able to work for their own scythe to place their own sentimental values on, rather than care about a "rare account" owning it instead. It doesn't benefit anybody, even that account, limiting the scythe to his account only.

Learn to care about somebody other than yourself for once, Blacktroll.


Yet the vote in question got shot down thus the other "majority" obviously doesnt care about "historical value".

So try a different argument whatyousay-troll.
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03-Oct-2018 21:46:19 - Last edited on 03-Oct-2018 21:47:11 by Draco Burnz

Pikachu78
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um the vote passed you dont know what ur talking about it in no way got shot down dude, dont know where you came up with that fantasy...so getting back on topic they need to just re-realease the items into the shop like everyone wanted as per the poll
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04-Oct-2018 06:02:52

Sharp-shin

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Pikachu78 said :
um the vote passed you dont know what ur talking about it in no way got shot down dude, dont know where you came up with that fantasy...so getting back on topic they need to just re-realease the items into the shop like everyone wanted as per the poll

He's probably referring to the fact that Jagex decided to negate the outcome of the poll, since they realized that 50% threshold to pass is too low and controversial to be suitable, which is why they now use the 75% threshold, not only to ensure that there's an actual clear majority in favor, but also that there aren't too many people that would get upset by it. Remember that it's much easier to vote yes to something, because even if someone doesn't care about the potential outcome of the poll personally, they'll probably see it as "oh well, I might as well vote yes, since I don't see why I shouldn't" if they don't know about the bigger picture of the situation, as Jagex doesn't explain on the poll itself why you'd want to vote either way. On the other hand, people voting against are doing so because they know the whole picture, and they see something resulting from it that could possibly even make them quit. Players voting in favor are much more unlikely to quit if their option doesn't pass, since the game has to please them already for them to even bother voting, and since nothing would change for the worse if their option failed to pass.

Also, like said before, the loyalty point poll is dated, whereas the OSRS polls are very recent; the latter showed that a community, which has both been a part of a game that has had discontinued items for years, and a part of a game that hasn't had discontinued items for years, prefers discontinued items, no doubt because that makes them much more interesting than if the game was constantly flooded with them. The RS3 community doesn't have the same experience, so there are people ignorantly voting yes.
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04-Oct-2018 07:57:30

Whatusaytome
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It doesn't matter when the first poll happened, I guarantee that 2014 poll has more voters than there would be today, and I guarantee the 25k surplus of supporters is more than enough justification to pass a poll. 25k surplus supporters is not an insignificant amount by any standards. Stop worrying about demanding a 75% vote when the result of going through with the change DOESN'T AFFECT THE OWNERS ONE BIT.

You act like it's easy for a person to say yes when they are unaffected? Obviously it's just as easy to feel offended by a change, even when it doesn't affect you.

There is no reason for this to be treated like a controversial change, because it can only change the game in a positive way for more people, while at the same time, NOT ACTUALLY negatively affecting anything other than a selfish egoist.

How many times do we have to say it to make it clear to you. YOUR VALUES ARE YOURS. AND YOUR PERSONAL VALUES CANNOT BE LOST BY THIS CHANGE.

Historical Value is UNCHANGED because everything you worry about regarding Historical Value remains as it is. I can still tell who was there for the Original event, and so can you. The only reason you disagree is because you personally feel offended by people wanting cosmetics. And that makes you extremely petty for feeling offended by a change that, once again, DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.

Still hilarious that you completely and utterly refuse to actually talk to me. Trying to make snide replies through other people's comments where you can. Maybe there's a good reason you don't get respect from me. You can't expect me to respect your opinion when you refuse to acknowledge mine exists.
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04-Oct-2018 21:51:17

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i acknowledge your stance exsists...

Mine is that even OSRS has the 75 percent vote....

So it didnt hit 75 percent .... jagex realized 50 percent was too low.
If they intended to bring it back, they would have in the last 4 years.

Acknowledge that i dont want the exact version coming back just
because I dont want it.. which is a good enough reason to me.

Im a bitch like that.
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05-Oct-2018 01:58:19

Draco Burnz
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Pikachu78 said :
um the vote passed you dont know what ur talking about it in no way got shot down dude, dont know where you came up with that fantasy...so getting back on topic they need to just re-realease the items into the shop like everyone wanted as per the poll


Yes the poll "passed" but usually that means the thing that was being polled wouldve happened sometime after.

Yet it didnt.

So...
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05-Oct-2018 01:58:49

Whatusaytome
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Ladyolake said :
i acknowledge your stance exsists...

Mine is that even OSRS has the 75 percent vote....

So it didnt hit 75 percent .... jagex realized 50 percent was too low.
If they intended to bring it back, they would have in the last 4 years.

Acknowledge that i dont want the exact version coming back just
because I dont want it.. which is a good enough reason to me.

Im a bitch like that.
That's not being a bitch, that's being selfish. You're saying nobody else's opinion matters because you have them all(almost) and they don't.. Or maybe you just enjoy living in a game where you are the only one who can enjoy the holidays with holiday themed items.

That makes you, a single person, special. And now everybody has to be either impressed or jealous, and never be given a chance for their own, because it makes you feel important, despite them simply being clothes and toys.

As I keep repeating, anything coming back doesn't affect you. If they did it on a whim without telling anybody, you wouldn't notice. And you certainly wouldn't be complaining about that single item you are missing out on.

I appreciate your acknowledgement, but you are not the one who has desperately found any reason he could to avoid acknowledging my posts. And I acknowledge your opinion of thinking clothes and toys should be treated like rarities, and you might be fine with new items similar, but the items people see, want, and we're offered Solomon's sales for, are the one's we wear.

It doesn't affect me if I see another person with a warlock suit. And I'm not even going to say anything to somebody else wearing it, because it's honestly not a big deal. He happened to be able to play one day, big whoop.
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05-Oct-2018 09:52:42

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