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Sir Gassity
Aug Member 2006

Sir Gassity

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This is going to need a firm hand on the rudder.
Good message. Stay in regular contact. Stress that the game is changing so it can survive.
G
P.S. - Good live stream session. If you fell down anywhere it was when asked "Are people with cash not advantaged because they can buy xp and get gp from SOF?"
Your response was "It would be a poor way to train a skill due to the random nature of the rewards."
But, in truth, for those very few who are willing to spend *big*, you can gain a great deal of xp and gp. So diffuse the concern by citing hard data about what the average player spends on SOF. It would go like this: "Of the players who purchase spins on the SOF, 98% spend under $10.00 per month. Given the random nature of the rewards, the total xp gained by these additional spins amounts to less than what was once offered for solving all levels of an effigy." Use your data to establish a "norm" which may be referenced in all future discussions.
Thanks for the stream.

30-Aug-2012 08:06:00 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2012 08:35:33 by Sir Gassity

Juicy Lips

Juicy Lips

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I would just like to say, It's amazing that Jagex cares about this game so much that they've had many many J-mods post their opinions and ideas.
I do not support Squeel of Fortune/RuneCoins, but I believe a solution can be reached as Jagex has proved time and time again that they can overcome challenges. I look forward to the Bot Nuke, and my clan has already started making preparations for the party! ;)
Speacial shoutout to Mod Zach for his perseverence and his calmness about trying his best about the situation! Also shoutout to the Sushi mod because his name just sounds so tasty! :P
Thanks Jagex to show that you care.
Torrenthal :)

30-Aug-2012 08:10:50 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2012 08:13:28 by Juicy Lips

MrHatN Clogs
Sep Member 2017

MrHatN Clogs

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@ sky is you want an alternative to Java and i must say that the runescape client is way better than having to load up your browser when its right on the desktop so search it and download it and give it a try and for HTML 5 i will repost what it is in couple minutes Not all change is for the better.

30-Aug-2012 08:12:20

Team Skull
Aug Member 2008

Team Skull

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from page 43:
29-Aug-2012 20:02:52
"and have been looking anxiously at feedback from all of our community"
And chose to ignore it, of course.
"For example, we know that directly selling gold, XP or even accounts would generate between 10 to 15 times more revenue than Squeal or Solomon’s Store generates combined. However, we simply won’t do it, because we don’t believe it’s the right thing for the long-term health of the game."
Until we do it, of course.
"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape."
Jagex officials did not only lie there, but also
- about account security problems, allowing third parties to make purchases in the legitimate player's name for thousands of euros/pounds/dollars (this has been fixed),
- about not having changes the terms & conditions in order to keep such illegal gains,
- about "no advertisements for members", with one or two pop-up ads every time a player logs in.
- about "player support" for the Squeal of fortune by declaring everyone who ever used a `free spin' to be in favour of microtransactions.
"Integrity"?
First step, remove ads for members.
Then, do a poll instead of just claiming "90% player support" on the Squeal of Fortune cash-for-in-game-advantages scheme. (THAT is the elephant in the room.)
Third, if and when a majority votes against it, stop selling in-game advantages - and return to the old policy.
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TL;DR: "Jagex ethics" again - making new empty promises while still breaking old ones on a daily basis.
^THIS.
"Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Aug-2012 08:13:05

Myah
Sep Member 2005

Myah

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Thank you for posting regarding the micro-transactions. And the HTML5 looks great.
I dont have a problem with Solomons Store as it stocks only cosmetic items and, I hope, will continue to do so. If a player wants to spend real cash (micro-transactions) on those, I believe thats up to them.
As someone who works in the legal industry the problem I have and have always had, is the buyable spins on SoF. This is illegal gambling for anyone aged under 18 in most countries and there is significant legislation about this. Therefore anyone buying spins on SoF who is aged under 18 is liable for criminal charges even if it is done with the consent of a parent/guardian.
If Jagex wants me to spend money at Solomons, fine thats not a problem. If they need to increase my membership a bit, fine thats not a problem. But buyable spins are a problem and no matter what Jagex say, this does not make buyable spins legal.

30-Aug-2012 08:13:44

Michael Bz
Mar Member 2021

Michael Bz

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how about the eoc. ?
i know its hard work and so, but i've been playing way to long, and i did enjoy this game 100%
but now when you kinda HAVE to play eoc. its just not me. i like rs for being speciel..
aint it possible to make eoc, and rs2. to change in grafic. like high and low details ?
or i think this is it for me:/ not sure been playing it, but ye im sorry just dont like it and i know many more feel me in that.
Regards Michael bz

30-Aug-2012 08:14:22 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2012 08:15:11 by Michael Bz

Chef MeGusta

Chef MeGusta

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So Mark Gherard... You didn't Change anything about the current updates we're complaining about?
You only Made a bunch of promises and excuses.
And indirectly Threatened that if we don't allow you to do micro transactions runescape will be removed? Come on now... Really?

30-Aug-2012 08:14:39

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