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Anima Nexus

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Jamzi said :
I would just prefer a guide made by Jagex when new content gets released, as this player owned farm without any guide is nonsense. TY

you don't seem like fun at parties. That would be the biggest buzzkill for so many players, even if they could opt to not read it. Why would a developer spend their creative will building something fun, inteeresting and challenging....to then just turn around and release the meta and spoilers..I would hate my job.

jagex is not here to hold your hand and walk you through the game, loling at the very idea..

03-Oct-2018 01:50:23

BLOODDlAMOND
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"In-game integration with the Wikis in some form is something that we’d love to do, but we haven’t committed to it as a project.
We’d be interested in hearing from players about what their ideal integration with the Wikis would be
- whether it’s being able to examine an item and get a link to the Wiki, or using a command in the chat to open a Wiki page."

If you are serious about doing this (and you should be, it would be huge for QoL) the only way is something simple and neat that can be done with a minimum of fuss on the fly.

Alt1 has a function where if you hover your cursor over the line of text that says "examine x" then hit "Alt+1" the Wiki page for that item pops up in a window on your screen. Having this separate, resizable window is also amazing for questing, completing task sets and a ton of other stuff.

Don't make anything too complicated. By all means integrate it into the client, but also give it an easy hotkey option (described above) that will allow a pop up window to remain open until it is closed. Or minimized, which I also love as a feature. It should not, and I cannot emphasize this enough, close itself down constantly and interrupt what you are doing like that damn loot window. Why can't this feature work sensibly?

To be perfectly truthful - an this is probably slightly off topic - I don't know why the NXT client cannot utilize the features Alt1 provides. Entering into a partnership with these guys to integrate their stuff and keep it current/innovative, (as in they do the hard stuff and Jagex just approves and includes) would be a huge step forward.

I know you have Runemetrics Pro, but until improvements are made to it in a variety of areas people simply won't pay for it. Or not as many as would if it were improved. Like Solomon's cosmetics, this is a lost opportunity. People will pay for stuff that is functional and gives them what they want.
"Howard, I think you of all people should avoid espousing the principle that if something is not our favourite we should just get rid of it." ~ Sheldon Cooper

03-Oct-2018 02:02:36

Stinkowing
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Stinkowing

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Lord Tharkon said :
Who is this "we" you speak if.

I don't see what is wrong with it. Even if something was wrong, it is probably something that can be fixed. Jagex tried to run their own wiki in the past and it was ignored in favor of runescape.wikia.com because it was simply better. I foresee this won't be any different.

"We" is "my fellow wiki editors and I, who have put up with shit from Wikia/FANDOM long enough". If we hadn't moved, things would only get worse!

I am going to stress this part: Jagex has nothing to do with the wiki in terms of ownership. Do not edit the Wikia wiki, let it die. That's all we as editors can do. Jagex is simply covering costs for us to be able to move from Wikia. There is a contract on what they can and cannot do, and take control is one they cannot.

GliceEsther said :
Oh and I don't know why you can't just delete all the wikia content next month to help move over? For graphical nostalgic reasons? Take pics maybe?

Wikia won't allow deletion of the content on the old wiki. That's worthy of a global block to them. No joke, it's dumb, but it's what they do!

Mauhur said :
Edit: Yes, I do find it a bit sleazy that only a handful of people will be awarded the Wikian title. However, given how so many people use RS wikis it comes as no surprise they have so much clout with Jagex. Just don't give stroke the egos of the wiki editors and things should be fine.

It was established early on when the title was offered to us that it's NOT a popularity contest. If you play Team Fortress 2, it's more akin to the Wiki Cap, for contributing positively. Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

03-Oct-2018 02:18:49 - Last edited on 03-Oct-2018 02:24:08 by Stinkowing

MamaBear
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I'm glad Jagex is willing to financially support the new wiki. Without that, the move wouldn't have been possible.

Account migration is working and I'm all set up on the new site. I've deleted my bookmarks to the old site, and I'm not looking back. (I would add something clever and funny here, but I'm tired from chasing chinchompas all day.)

:D I loathe the Wildy!

03-Oct-2018 02:28:20

Cook Me Plox

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Lord Tharkon said :
I really don't get it.

First you tried to run your own wiki, which failed horribly.
Then for a moment I thought you supported runescape.wikia.com.

But now you're trying to create your own thing again.

Original message details are unavailable.
There are currently 190 articles and 39 files on the RuneScape Wiki.

I don't think this one is doing so well, if what you said about it being up for 10 years is true.

Either way, I, and probably a lot of others, are gonna stay with the runescape.wikia.com, because that has always (mostly) worked.

Hey Tharkon! I remember you from the recent changes on the wiki in many years past :)

If you check out the Yew Grove thread about leaving (Forum:Leaving Wikia), I think you'll see this interpretation isn't quite correct: this is basically the entire wiki community (including me, Gaz, Cqm, Joey...literally everyone, check out the thread!) deciding that Wikia wasn't a good place to be anymore. We feel really lucky that this opportunity with Jagex presented itself, because it gives us an opportunity to get the hell away from Wikia.

Jagex has no control over the content of the site -- they're only paying for our operational costs, but at the end of the day they're leaving ALL of the responsibility for running things to the existing community, which has really just completely left Wikia in favor of this new place.

It's not Jagex competing with the wiki, or trying to "make their own thing" -- it's Jagex helping the wiki get away from a terrible host. The numbers you saw on RuneScape:About were outdated because we were rebuilding some link tables at the time. All of the content from the old wiki has been moved over.

Please check out the thread. It's actually a really really good thing. I hope you'll join us there.

03-Oct-2018 03:11:02

Lord Tharkon

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Cook Me Plox said :
Hey Tharkon! I remember you from the recent changes on the wiki in many years past :)

Less recent and mostly many years past :D I'm flattered that you still remember me.

Interesting, I just came back here because of reading that thread. IsobelJ had pointed me to it last sunday but I was behind on checking my e-mail.

I understand it now, but Jagex' newspost was not clear in this. They used terms like "The RuneScape Wiki has launched" which sounds like it is a new thing, not an existing thing that is being moved. There is no reference being made to Wikia at all or any other way of identifying it. While runescape.wikia.com calls themselves The RuneScape Wiki, Jagex has called their wiki by the same name in the past. And I was not alone in this, I discussed it ingame and we agreed it was weird that Jagex would start competing again.

I understand the list of problems you had and think I may even have experienced some of them a long time ago (forced theme usage, I even tried forcing the link my signature to go to monobook) but forgot about them. And I simply nuke all invasive ads so they never really bothered me. If the new site uses a fork from January 2018 though, how come it said it only has 190 articles [265 now]?

P.s. Migration successful, except for signatures it seems. And I guess it is embarrassing that I have a signature skillcape yet only now notice that my own signature is broken. The entire world is bragging about cookies and Jagex doesn't even know how to use them.

03-Oct-2018 03:53:49 - Last edited on 03-Oct-2018 04:01:58 by Lord Tharkon

Cook Me Plox

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Lord Tharkon said :
If the new site uses a fork from January 2018 though, how come it said it only has 190 articles [265 now]?

The "test wiki" that we were making theme updates, etc to was using a version of the content from January 2018, but we merged those changes on top of a very recent version of the wiki (October 1st 2018) yesterday.

The article count is just wrong right now -- it's a counter in the database that gets updated by a maintenance job that hasn't run yet.

03-Oct-2018 04:09:04

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