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Sharp-shin

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MrsGuinevere said :
EVERYONE chill, you spend more going out to eat a month then you do having 30 days of game pay.

If you don't like the Price (many should be on a grandfather locked in Rate) then be so kind show Runescape how it is done by developing a GAME worth 17 years of content created BY YOU.


While you at it please Tell us how much work it is, how many people you have employed, How much in Taxes you pay, all the Technicalities and Coding that goes into your Game, EVERYTING that has to do with being a GAME OWNER in the size Jagex has grown world wide. As a NOW young Adult show us how it is done.

If you don't know or you are NOT willing to make or try to make a Game of your own either LEAVE RUNESCAPE or accept the changes. Runescape/ Jagex has their Reasons for the hike, some of which they are not ready to reveal. Stop acting like 2 year old spoiled brats throwing a Temper Tantrum.

Jesus; you talk about others being spoiled brats throwing a tantrum, all the while you yourself throw a fit over people criticizing Jagex's questionable choices in monetization, because... why, exactly? > )

Also, how do you know that Jagex "has their reasons which they are not ready to reveal"? You obviously don't work for Jagex, so you should be able to give a source for this claim without problems, yes?
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12-Apr-2018 00:21:46

MrsGuinevere

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Jesus; you talk about others being spoiled brats throwing a tantrum, all the while you yourself throw a fit over people criticizing Jagex's questionable choices in monetization, because... why, exactly? > )

Also, how do you know that Jagex "has their reasons which they are not ready to reveal"? You obviously don't work for Jagex, so you should be able to give a source for this claim without problems, yes?
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lol funny I am considered in the same batch.
How do you deal with real life price changes? your internet Provider will be raising their cost by 10 a month. Your choice stay or go and find a better price. Mc Donald's raises the price of their Cheeseburger. Your choice to purchase or not. Now why did those two raise the price? one says inflation the other says nothing. You can write a letter to their Corporate office and complain, but in the end it changes nothing and you have to make a choice to support them or not.

How do you know Jagex doesn't have a reason for the Price hike? Maybe the cost is covering NEW Employees, maybe the cost will be due to Mobile, No I don't work for Jagex but I am old enough to know (even if I don't agree with it) that NO price ever stays the same in anything in life. Some times Prices go up due to improvement, new Products, higher taxes, more manpower or whatever. Sometimes prices go up with NO improvement whatsoever. Plain and simple that is part of life. It is up to the consumer what to figure out what to do with it.

I am not the whining person I am trying to be a voice of reason. Why the back lash on me or others that try to explain that it is up to you to leave or stay and pay the new cost. Which btw does NOT change if you have current re occurring Payments. Just keep your current membership and nothing changes.

12-Apr-2018 00:42:09 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2018 00:45:42 by MrsGuinevere

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MrsGuinevere said :
Jesus; you talk about others being spoiled brats throwing a tantrum, all the while you yourself throw a fit over people criticizing Jagex's questionable choices in monetization, because... why, exactly? > )

Also, how do you know that Jagex "has their reasons which they are not ready to reveal"? You obviously don't work for Jagex, so you should be able to give a source for this claim without problems, yes?


lol funny I am considered in the same batch.
How do you deal with real life price changes? your internet Provider will be raising their cost by 10 a month. Your choice stay or go and find a better price. Mc Donald's raises the price of their Cheeseburger. Your choice to purchase or not. Now why did those two raise the price? one says inflation the other says nothing. You can write a letter to their Corporate office and complain, but in the end it changes nothing and you have to make a choice to support them or not.

How do you know Jagex doesn't have a reason for the Price hike? Maybe the cost is covering NEW Employees, maybe the cost will be due to Mobile, No I don't work for Jagex but I am old enough to know (even if I don't agree with it) that NO price ever stays the same in anything in life. Some times Prices go up due to improvement, new Products, higher taxes, more manpower or whatever. Sometimes prices go up with NO improvement whatsoever. Plain and simple that is part of life. It is up to the consumer what they do with it.

I am not the whining person I am trying to be a voice of reason. Why the back lash on me or others that try to explain that it is up to you to leave or stay and pay the new cost. Which btw does NOT change if you have current re occurring Payments. Just keep your current membership and nothing changes.[/quote]

We know. Have you tried blinking and breathing.

12-Apr-2018 00:47:48

Janos Morgan
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MrsGuinevere said :
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This isn't a problem for us. It's a problem for new players, who probably won't see £7 a month as a worthwhile investment for membership. No new players means more microtransactions to make up the costs. More microtransactions means more angry players, some of which will quit. Cycle continues until there is nothing left and Fukong Interactive Shandong Hongda either sell Jagex or shut it down completely, taking both Old School and RS3 with it.

I dread the day when a news post titled "The Future of Runescape" pops up on the Homepage. Given the current state of things, it's inevitable. It's just a question of when.
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12-Apr-2018 00:52:26 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2018 01:03:30 by Janos Morgan

English King
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I'd rather see fees based on how long you've played runescape instead of forcing people to keep members without being able to break. Example: Accts 15 yrs or more$ 5 a month, 10yrs $7.50, 5 years current fees. And new accounts what you are wanting now. Because if you think about it players who have played a long time many of them have did all the current content and not much new to game so why even hang around except in hopes something new will interest them. Fayre was kind of a flop...Ya new items to buy and rare chance to get while you train but, what really would attract a 200mil xp account to go waste their time their nothing nadda... Some players opt to make new ironmen or alt accts so you are getting more money from long time players. Charging them more to stick around just to redo old content isn't very attracting and you probably will lose more players than gain. Unless your are going to do away with treasure hunter and spend more time on making the game more fun and challenging I don't see many new players being attracted to runescape their are just to many new games out their that are available at lower cost and all new content to try. Also challenging i don't mean pvm bosses either many players are skillers and the xp you can just buy from keys doesn't give a challenge makes the highscores a joke and competition a joke. Oh ya forgot to mention graphics many of us still use the low graphics because our systems can't handle more because of lag...so enough with graphic changes so much and updates on that the graphics are fine its the content. Runescape was loved because of its simplicity if we wanted wow we would be going to play wow...Haven't you figured it out that is why many people cried for 2007 and os versions...Complexity has driven away some of my older friends.

12-Apr-2018 01:00:01 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2018 01:06:15 by English King

Liberdy
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It's a scientific fact that humans absolutely despise change, regardless of how small or large the impact of the specified change actually is. Though there are some disagreements on this page, ultimately most people are stating the same thing, just in different ways.

RuneScape has developed and changed quite drastically over the years. Those who have been around for awhile experienced all of the ups and downs. These are normal, and it's nothing any other MMORPG community hasn't experienced. Each community deals with these shifts of imbalance in their own way and the world continues spinning.

The pivotal moment however, is when your gaming community notices an imbalance between content they believe benefits them, and the price tag that follows. If the community as a whole agrees that content is lacking (or has been lacking for awhile), and then the price tag goes up, you'll end up creating a recipe for disaster (no quest pun intended).

A lot of what is being expressed here are all of the issues that have been brooding for awhile in the community which are then being released at the same time. Regardless of which ideal you believe in, it can be agreed that this decision was poorly timed.

12-Apr-2018 01:16:33

Sharp-shin

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MrsGuinevere said :
lol funny I am considered in the same batch.
How do you deal with real life price changes? your internet Provider will be raising their cost by 10 a month. Your choice stay or go and find a better price. Mc Donald's raises the price of their Cheeseburger. Your choice to purchase or not. Now why did those two raise the price? one says inflation the other says nothing. You can write a letter to their Corporate office and complain, but in the end it changes nothing and you have to make a choice to support them or not.

Your behavior speaks for itself. > )

And please, you seem to be missing some crucial things here; one, that Jagex itself has reported record profits for its operations, and two, that membership is not the only price tag of Runescape; it's also outrageously filled with MTX. Numerous gaming companies, big and small alike, have shown that it is very possible to be profitable with either free entry to the game and MTX, or an entry fee/subscription and no MTX. And Jagex's own financial statements also confirm this, yet despite all of it, they still keep pushing both MTX and membership price increase, when they literally have no reason to do so, as shown by their own documents.

But to go back to your "comparisons"; my ISP only charges the agreed-upon subscription fee, and unlike Jagex, doesn't keep charging me for extra with garbage like MTX (yes, you can "ignore" it, but it's designed not to be ignored, and even if you do ignore it, you're missing out and at a disadvantage to someone who does buy into it). I don't eat fast food, so I don't care about McDonalds. Hopefully this answers your question.
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12-Apr-2018 01:27:44

Sharp-shin

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MrsGuinevere said :
How do you know Jagex doesn't have a reason for the Price hike? Maybe the cost is covering NEW Employees, maybe the cost will be due to Mobile, No I don't work for Jagex but I am old enough to know (even if I don't agree with it) that NO price ever stays the same in anything in life. Some times Prices go up due to improvement, new Products, higher taxes, more manpower or whatever. Sometimes prices go up with NO improvement whatsoever. Plain and simple that is part of life. It is up to the consumer what to figure out what to do with it.

I'll throw the ball right back at you: how do you know Jagex does have a proper reason for the price hike? > )

If Jagex doesn't like this negative criticism, and feel like it's wrong, by all means, they're welcome to explain in better detail why they need that money on top of all the record profits from MTX.

And yep, sometimes prices go up without improvement in return; but what Jagex has done is heavily increase the price (by not only increasing membership price, but also constantly spamming MTX promotions) and given us less in return than before. We used to get more and higher quality updates than we do now. Now we get patch weeks more and more often, as well as the spam of lazy copy-paste temporary events, as filler for the lack of proper game updates.
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12-Apr-2018 01:28:39

Sharp-shin

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MrsGuinevere said :
I am not the whining person I am trying to be a voice of reason. Why the back lash on me or others that try to explain that it is up to you to leave or stay and pay the new cost. Which btw does NOT change if you have current re occurring Payments. Just keep your current membership and nothing changes.

That last sentence is false btw. What if after this price increase, I suddenly feel like wanting to make a new alt? I can't add it to my existing account, because only one character can be done per account, and if I make a new account, I have to pay the new membership price. So much for "just keep your current membership and nothing changes".

But wait, it doesn't end there; what if I want premier club on my existing character? Premier club doesn't include your grandfathered membership rate; it uses the new pricing. So even if I don't make a new account, I can still be affected by the price increase. Oh dear. > /
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12-Apr-2018 01:29:34

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