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DrMetroid
Nov Member 2015

DrMetroid

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Oh God
PLEASE
don't do this! You're walking into a trap!
This company is doing what is common practice in China as of late: the economy is spiraling out of control (and CCP intervention is only making it worse) and to make up for lost (read: inflated) profits they're dumping absurd amounts of money into more stable foreign companies to have some sort of "buffer" even though ALREADY KNOW they will NEVER see a return on their investment: they're deflecting the damage to their company onto YOU! Don't be seduced by their false promises!

All companies in China are owned by the Communist Party and they are notorious for stealing intellectual property and personal information with impunity (shanzhai) and working with the Chinese means you play by their rules and I will have NONE of that! I will not play an online game even partially owned by a country the brutally oppresses its people (did I mention they censor massive swathes of the internet and people that say anything anti-party-line online have a strange habit of "disappearing"?)
If you really want to enter the Asian markets why don't you try Korea and/or Japan? Y'know, countries that actually obey international law and protect human rights? Not to mention the name of the game in China is corruption: if someone isn't getting paid under the table, nothing gets done*

**;DR If something sounds too good to be true it IS!

18-Mar-2016 23:49:08 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2016 00:00:15 by DrMetroid

Averia Light

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Have to wonder if they pulled a loan for the 300M expecting the yen to lose buying power in the future, which would mean the foreign currency would buy more future yen essentially making the 300M loan "cheaper".

Is this all really just... a hedge? And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

18-Mar-2016 23:54:20 - Last edited on 18-Mar-2016 23:55:23 by Averia Light

Angel2D4

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I don't get why there doesn't seem to be any of you that grasp that this new company could have plans to take all games to mobile (and even if they only charged a buck each.. hello!).

It's not unfathomable that they could simply plan on exactly that. Mobile aps are chump change to the players, and when you're talking about a massive amount of people paying that chump change.. they stand to make their investment back in under a year (if not a matter of merely weeks).

I also don't get why so many don't seem to grasp that once this acquisition is complete, it's possible that China will limit the game to only those IN China.

They don't actually need the rest of the world to play their games.. they have enough peeps to fully support it themselves. And for China, that IS business as usual. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

19-Mar-2016 00:06:30 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2016 00:08:36 by Angel2D4

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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As in M&A of most privately held companies, details of the deal are not made known to anybody outside the Board of Directors prior to its completion.

All those who have concerns, questions and expectations to Jagex mods handling the forums properly won't get any concrete answers since the chance is the mods know nothing more than the players.

19-Mar-2016 02:01:14 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2016 02:02:37 by Dilbert2001

Cinnamon Tee

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Definitely against this. For one, what does a real life mining company want with an MMORPGs something they have no experience in? Second, the company is out of China, and I have had enough bad experiences with how asian-run MMORPGs are handled to know that if a Chinese company is running the game, it will likely become extremely pay-to-win and increasingly hostile toward players who don't invest tons of money into monthly MTX. And funny too, out of all the asian-run MMORPGs I've tried, the one out of China was the absolute worst. Completely ignoring players, constantly releasing unfinished and obviously untested content, removal of ingame items and equipment then making them exclusively available as super-rare prizes from MTX gamble items. Other games aren't much better. Honestly, the biggest reason I never gave up Runescape is because it's run a helluvalot better than those games. This is the only game I've played that doesn't increase pay-to-win tedium to the extreme. To me, this game feels like it has heart, like it's more than just a quick buck, and it feels like the people running it actually enjoy what they do instead of it just being "a paycheck". If this game gets sold out to China, I have the feeling everyone who gives a damn will be replaced by people who see the game as "a paycheck", and the game will lose its heart.

19-Mar-2016 03:24:45 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2016 04:16:37 by Cinnamon Tee

Mell

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To sum it up, Jagex; After quickly scanning this thread I think the bottom line is: Please don't!

But we don't really have a say in the matter, do we. If the negociations reach your desired outcome I'm pretty sure it will happen regardless of what the community says.

But there are a lot of good points mentioned by players before. Thus I don't really need to indulge in an explanation...

I like the game the way it is, with it's Brittish humor. You're reliable and are going a certain direction that have made me keep coming back to RS for over 10 years.

When I first saw the words China and acquisition it honestly scared the hell out of me. R.I.P our game is the first thing that came to mind. No offense to Chinese people, that is not what this is about, but if I wanted to play a Chinese game I wouldn't be playing RuneScape now would I? I think that if given influence, there will be too many undesired changes to the game**

RuneScape has a special formula which gives it it's charm and makes it fun. You wouldn't put salt onto your stawberries when you've been pouring sugar over them for 15 years would you? Because although the salt may look suspicially like sugar, you're going to have a bad time.

Or must I say pour salt on OUR strawberries.

Conclusion: Don't mess with the recipe.

19-Mar-2016 08:25:59 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2016 08:28:10 by Mell

Ceac
Dec Member 2021

Ceac

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I don't want this deal to go through. If it does, I'm done.

I really love playing this game as it is very relaxing and enjoyable. However, I don't like the idea of my money supporting some random Chinese company. They are a mining company , not a game-developing company. For once, please listen to your community Jagex! A lot of us really don't want this to happen!


As what @Mell said:
Original message details are unavailable.

RuneScape has a special formula which gives it it's charm and makes it fun. You wouldn't put salt onto your stawberries when you've been pouring sugar over them for 15 years would you? Because although the salt may look suspicially like sugar, you're going to have a bad time.

Or must I say pour salt on OUR strawberries.

Conclusion: Don't mess with the recipe.

19-Mar-2016 13:55:16

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