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Darkish Lara

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I believe that means bonds=rsgp

'Bonds don't cause money to come into the game. When you pay money to Jagex so you can buy gold, you are buying gold from an actual player. You are not commissioning gold into existence that otherwise wouldn't be there.'

Copied that from another thread.

25-Sep-2013 20:30:52

HyphyMike
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One of two things are happening here.

1) Jagex is introducing official RWT and Pay2Win while simultaneously trying to pull the blinders over our eyes to this by trying to blame Gold Farmers

2) No one at jagex has any common sense.

Unless the prices of the bonds are less than the prices of the Gold Sites, you will never do anything to gold farmers. Go back to the drawing board and someone actually use your brains. This is a stupid concept that will only negatively effect the game.

Anything to make a few extra dollars, huh Jagex?

Instead of trying to squeeze more money out of the few players that are left, maybe try spending some money on an advertising campaign.

Just a thought.
Another failed update by Jagex, thank you

25-Sep-2013 20:30:59

tehnoobpowns

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wow... seriously.
I usually support most of your updates but this is yet another useless update.
RWT is wrong, so don't start doing it yourselves.
buying a bond is bassicly the same as buying rsgp. I like the idea of being able to buy membership with ingame money, but not like this.
Checker of dubs

25-Sep-2013 20:31:40

Kayariy
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In the same way Jagex would never sell GP?
Jagex are not selling gold and have no intention of doing so. The introduction of bonds does not result in any extra gold being introduced into the economy which is not already present in the game.

Bonds are like any other item once they have been purchased in that they can be traded between players or on the Grand Exchange. However, bonds do allow in-game items to be exchanged for tangible benefits such as membership, runecoins, or spins on the Squeal of Fortune.
Except they are not like any other item... in that they can convert real life money to in game items. Which you said, numerous times...... you would not allow.

25-Sep-2013 20:32:54

Queenly
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First off I'd like to thank Mod Redfox for taking the time to address and respond to both mine and others comments on this thread. However with that being said;

I'm not sure how you can say the introduction of Bonds does not give both the premise of selling gold and being Pay2Win? I, as well as others, do realize obviously no new gold is being added to the game, however you seem to be missing the point that even if no new gold is being added, people who purchase bonds from Jagex are essentially purchasing Gold The only purpose of buying bonds would be to sell them, no? We understand that no new gold is being added to the game, however many people including myself, do not like the premise of being able to buy an item with real-life money and then being able to sell it ingame.

As I said before, the most likely reason anyone would buy these bonds would simply be to sell them to other players, and make more GP. I don't think you can say that doesn't have Pay2Win principles in it, because any rich kid could go and buy 5 of these bonds, sell them for 15m each or whatever they're worth, and now he has an advantage over someone who doesn't have the real life wealth to do so.

The complaint is that this gives an unfair advantage to people with deep-pockets in real life over people who don't, and that is a principle that Jagex has previously stated they were completely against.


This +1

25-Sep-2013 20:33:05

Matzybro

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This is borderline idiotic, does MMG really believe that the majority of RSGP sellers are selling for membership?

MAYBE 4-5% of gold sold is used for membership and spins, the rest is for real life money.

The only thing that will happen is that there is more competition for the gold sellers, which means prices will go down.

Not saying its not an alright effort but.. the way he talks about makes it seem like this will actually make a difference to the major GF'ers.


Stupid is and will always be stupid.

25-Sep-2013 20:33:45 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 20:35:20 by Matzybro

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So i bought an untradable bond from a player and was able to redeem it for 14 days of membership, is this "untradable" trade an overlook? or is the untradable just for the ge? vvvvv-----in case of fire read below-----vvvvv
Not now dummy, in case of fire

25-Sep-2013 20:35:58

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