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Ankia

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I'm not really sure how I feel about this update.

I really can't see how this stops gold farming. As other people pointed out, if people can get gold for cheaper than they can get bonds, they'll still buy gold. And what's to stop people from using their cheaply bought gold to buy bonds in game? Then they are essentially buying runescape memberships for less money than what they're actually worth. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this helps.

And I share other's concerns for going from being against RWT to encouraging it. I always hated games where you could get ahead by dropping some real world cash for in game wealth. And essentially that's what bonds will be. People can pay $5 for a bond and then sell it for gold in game. This seems very unfair for people who can't afford to pay real money, but who also have trouble getting in game wealth.

I don't know, though. I'm not going to condemn this update until I see the effects of it. But I can't say that I'm very hopeful.

25-Sep-2013 18:56:12

Barreloffish

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Just trying to look at another angle. What would happen if gold farmers take up bonds as commodity? They would farm gold as they have, buy the bonds with it, resell them as a lower price than Jagex (the 10% tax wouldn't be problem for them in this case). Almost every sucker would go for a cheaper price. Just my 2 cents. Though I hope this works out as intended.

On a side note. Regardless of what excuses, to me this is Jagex taking control of rwt and taking out competition. But if we must deal with rwt, I'd prefer the safer side of Jagex than Gold farmers.
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25-Sep-2013 18:56:37

Unzan Umbra
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Unzan Umbra

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The way I see it, this actually is a type of real world trading and I'm frankly not surprised at the controversy.

However , even if this can be viewed as Jagex going into the gold selling business, is not a bad thing. This could be seen as an attempt to cut out third parties from gold selling (and from what I've heard, take care of the credit card fraud issue) and allow the money to flow directly into Jagex instead.

This system is going to be a very strange one, especially with gold sellers inevitably trying to reduce their prices to counteract the bonds (Jagex is now 'competition' for them).

I have no idea what the motivation is behind people to buy virtual currency for virtual items in a virtual game and no matter how many times someone explains it, it's going to fly over my head because I'm a moron like that .

Now from my brief monologue proving that I have no idea what I'm talking about observations, the money would go back into Jagex and therefore back into the game in the form of updates. Frankly, I see that as a much better alternative.

25-Sep-2013 18:57:07

Sonora
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Sonora

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So $5 for 14 days, whereas I could spend *7.95 for a whole month; or, if you're grand-grandfathered into the $5/month? No thank you.

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Stigma Toxin
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I don't understand the logic here. I'm reading two Jmods arguing that this is not a gold buying alternative/pay to win solution...

Player a buys bond with rl cash
Player a places bond onto the ge
Player b uses their gold to buy bond
Player a receives gold in exchange
Player a has received gold for buying a bond with rl cash
Player a is now able to fund skills, buy equipment.

How can you possibly argue that this is not for buying gold or paying to 'win'?

Do you consider us that stupid... or are you deliberately being obtuse and relying that most will just give up moaning because what ever they say is ignored?

Regardless... currently buying bonds with gp I've developed over the years so I can cancel my card transaction and play osrs till it's popularity wanes :-) Thank you.

that's what i was thinking, but to top it off, a free player can buy a bond, become member, and bot for increased profit...it's not that hard. a botter can get a bond, that's the endgame. so much for contributing $5 to the community...

25-Sep-2013 18:57:46

JoeFriday
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JoeFriday

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Please, is there any danger for an innocuous player who trades bonds with a gold farmer and later gets banned for botting or using stolen credit card info?

this guy is obviously rwt'ing

> :( No you <insert word depicting very low level of intelligence>, I am concerned that if I buy a bond, i might get fu**ed because the ****** who put it into the ge, or sold it to me on the street, might have done something illegal.

ok sorry :(

25-Sep-2013 18:57:47

King Vorago

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This is total BS, im done with this game msg for the CEO and his pompous greedy ass, ***** off and leave whats left of runescape as it is you ignorant *****. Your placing a real world value on gp's and this is going to cripple any reason to even make money in-game when all we'll have to do is spend our hard earned real cash to buy some of these and sell them on the GE. You are the reason this game is dead, so atleast try and put fourth some effort to fix it finally.

25-Sep-2013 18:58:16

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