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Mod Redfox

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On the flipside it is also true that this will severely discourage gold farmers, even if they try to compete with the money made from buying gifts the costs of both will continuously fall until they give up. In addition buying from Jagex is obviously a lot safer than buying from some dodgy website.

I can't agree or disagree with this update, but I wish Runescape all the best for the future.

i cant say that it'll discourage gold farmers, one can get a bond but still want to gold farm. same thing goes for botters. it just means more membership, runecoins, or spins for them when they are gold farming or botting. that's a mistake jagex made. the update is decent with a few flaws, but i dont see why jagex made it to stop botting and gold farming. but outside that, its a nice update with flaws. severe flaws, mind you.
This is only part of our efforts to stop both goldfarming and botting.

Our zero tolerance policy to botting has not changed and we will continue to invest significant amounts of time and money into both the detection and prevetion of bots. Our current systems are already proving effective and are only going to get more so.

Bonds are not the entirety of the solution - they are a part of a far larger effort.

25-Sep-2013 18:43:29

Dadizar
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I became suspicious of this update by the way it's been introduced so oddly with phrases such as "heart of the game" and no surprise it's an additional micro transaction being brought into the game.

I also have a feeling that the "40-50% of players are buying gold" is a wildly overstated figure that has little evidence to support it. I just hope the same isn't true for the bot banning figures.

Additionally I'm curious how exactly bonds will stop ddosing and general hacking. If people want to download a bot or whatever at the risk of their account I cannot see why bonds being available to purchase would make them change their mind.

I'd like to think this is indeed just an attack on RWT but I have sever doubts.

If the 40% to 50% figure is true, why would the 50% to 60% want to continue to pay to play a game to a company where the cheaters are tolerated?

Why should i pay a company that will let me be knowingly be placed at a disadvantage to those that cheat? They must not think much of us at all.
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25-Sep-2013 18:43:41

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I became suspicious of this update by the way it's been introduced so oddly with phrases such as "heart of the game" and no surprise it's an additional micro transaction being brought into the game.

I also have a feeling that the "40-50% of players are buying gold" is a wildly overstated figure that has little evidence to support it. I just hope the same isn't true for the bot banning figures.

Additionally I'm curious how exactly bonds will stop ddosing and general hacking. If people want to download a bot or whatever at the risk of their account I cannot see why bonds being available to purchase would make them change their mind.

I'd like to think this is indeed just an attack on RWT but I have sever doubts.

Gtfo, talking out of your ass.

25-Sep-2013 18:43:46

Free Rp Alt
Dec Member 2012

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My only hope, that Jagex will use the additional profit they get from bonds to fund Runescape's port to mobile devices. I sincerely believe that no game company today should ignore the mobile platforms for their games. You embrace mobile or die, that is the current trend in the gaming industry.

^^ Why do you think jagex has ported runescape to html5 :)

HTML5 beta, you require a Watson-level computing power to run decently. :P

Now that Jagex has the funds, it is not acceptable if they won't port Runescape to mobile devices. If you guys ignore mobile gaming, Runescape won't be sustainable as a business in a long run ('long run' = more than 10 years).

Uh, I was told that html5 had a big focus on tablets and such, so I supposed that was a (side) goal.
Java is as portable as possible, and with the newest retina display and a magnifying glass, nothing should keep you from playing it in the browser on your phone ^^

As for me, I am one of the people that plays on a not-up-to-date laptop, and had to even turn those cool-new-music off, as it adds to the lags.
I'd be happy if Jagex spent some of that money on refactoring, making it run smoother, like in the old days.
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25-Sep-2013 18:44:11

Stigma Toxin
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now that this whole thing is out, there's no reversing it. its a good update with flaws. flaws are, putting it into GE and expecting it to prevent gold farming and/or botting.

why putting it in GE is a flaw: the price, i hear is currently 7m. what if an inexperienced player wanted to make use of a bond? say the player is cb lvl 100 or something like that, do you really think lvl 100 players on average have enough money to buy a bond? i didnt think so either. the whole tradable idea was a flaw to begin with. even if it wasnt tradable in-game, people would still be payng in-game money for it. because of this, the logic of bonds falls behind the question, how far is a free player willing to go to have a bond?

why expecting it to prevent gold farming and/or botting is a flaw: simple, just because someone gets a bond doesnt mean he/she isnt going to buy gold or bot. there are bots on members servers, someone can easily buy a bond and bot on a members server for increased profit. someone can buy a bond and buy gold to purchase torva....so yeah, this wont put gold farmers out of business, it'll only make business more profitable.

so the only thing left to do is remove them yourselves. what happened to all the player moderators? i havent heard from them at all. make it their responsibility to weed out the gold farmers for good.

25-Sep-2013 18:44:14

Rubicante

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If you're so good at finding out who's buying GP from the bots, why don't you just ban their customers?

That way you get rid of the cheaters and also removes the market for RWT.

yeah why not do this?

Because of the loss in revenue, Jagex needs to pay its employees.

Not only that, but I'm sure they don't take pleasure in the deletion of accounts which have had lots of peoples time put into, even if they did cheat.

Even if they did take that drastic motion, there will always be new people willing to risk their accounts for in-game gp.

People will cheat when they get the wink-wink nod-nod as far as rule enforcement goes. But once they enforce a rule it has a dramatic effect. Proof, took less than two week for the gamblers to disappear once they made it against the rules and enforced it. All of the new players the last 3 years came into an environment where cheating was tolerated so they assumed it was ok.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it would discourage a lot of people from buying gold but there are always some uninformed people which don't pay attention to rules, latest updates and movements Jagex are taking towards cracking down and some which are simply willing to take the risk.

25-Sep-2013 18:44:19 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 18:45:20 by Rubicante

Legate

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37,475 Players Online Now

So this is your way of saying your game is basically screwed, huh Mod Mark and Jagex? Or is your game is almost completely screwed up and and you just don't want to admit you have a problem with giving us players what we want!?

Just look at some f my ideas! Wall Lamps for Construction! Lightning Spells and Runes! No More Wilderness Penguins! None of these will probably end up getting implemented. And of course, there are all the other player-made and tailored ideas in the New Game Content forum, which are going to waste.

The Bonds idea seems like a good idea, but I highly and sincerely doubt implementing a system like this will put an end to gold farmers.

Burn in Hell, Mod Mark!! -_-

In case you didn't see it before...37,475 Players Online Now

You don't think it will end gold farming because you don't have a brain, give the idea some thought....Really think about the effects of this...

Lol
Goldfarming won't end, the prices on 1M is ~.30$ U.S, while going by current prices for 1 Bond, which is ~10M, but costs $5, makes the price of 1M ~.50$ U.S, by Bonds standards.

So $3 for 10M or $5 for 10M. It will still go on, it will still succeed, but to a lesser extent.

25-Sep-2013 18:44:26

J3F
Jan Member 2021

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hmm thanks for putting rwt did you consider the fact that the rs economy has just been crashed how so help the economy. we will see if this is just a try to get some money or what the real reason was behind this since you have to pay with irl money to get bonds it wont kill the bots and farmers but that is my opinion aslong as i doesn't ruin the fun in the game i won't stop ya.

Greetings a nice angel

25-Sep-2013 18:45:00

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