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Cybernet377
Aug Member 2008

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HonkyWrath said :
I think even having to obtain 3/4 of the votes as no is an advantage for the yes people, you can have as little as 26% people to vote yes when the pole closes to pass this with no question, if given those odds it still doesn't pass then it is obviously something the majority of paying customers want nothing to do with.

I don't think you read the post properly.

" If we get at least 75% 'Yes' votes, we’ll implement the Prestige system.

If we don’t get at least that many votes, we won’t implement Prestige. "

19-Oct-2013 01:53:32

Vol Aus
Mar Member 2008

Vol Aus

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As a previously max/comp player (and will be again as soon as I get 99 Div), this idea seemed pretty good. A lot of people strive for max/comp, but once you actually achieve it, there isn't much to do. Yes you can go for 200m in a skill, but with so many people already sitting on 200m there's only so high on the Hiscores you can go, so there isn't much satisfaction in that at all and you don't get anything in game like a cape for achieving 200m. I don't want to quit the game either, I enjoy it in my spare time and have friends and a clan. The prestige would of actually freshened up the game, given new life to old training areas and mini games. I love Barb assault, but even that is dead now days.

The only issue I can see with it is the max cash people buying out the resources and inflating the economy, making it hard for newer players to train. But on the other hand it would give some life back to GE and give the average skiller a chance to make money off resources again, and give value to the skills.

The normal Hiscores will still be there, none of our achievements will be taken away, we will lose nothing. We just will get the chance to set ourselves new goals, and others will have a chance to compete on the prestige hiscores if that is what they enjoy doing. Personally I would of just liked something to do and aim for. At the moment I have Div to train, which is great! I'm taking it slowly because I don't want to rush back to Comp and sit there again with nothing to actually do. So if not for prestige, what else can we do to bring new life into the game? Any suggestions?

19-Oct-2013 03:44:07

Blindmango
Feb Member 2005

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I want some reason to farm again or clean herbs or make staves. But I don't think just going for levels is going to be all that interesting. Much xp came from quests, but it's sad to do quests and have the xp be meaningless. I don't want to aim for 200mill, but multiple start overs are tough. So I'm hoping you come up with a different approach. How about a whole new set of skills once you have all the existing skills at lvl 99? That would be better than introducing one or two new skills at a time. Too many skills, too much content is a bit overwhelming. But POH and POP could give rise to a new set. Or do them in sets of 10. Allow us to hide the earlier 99s.
An alternative is a new set of the same skills with new content - more complicated? Schlepping fish or logs or ore is a little basic after you've gotten the 99.
How about letting us remove a banner or avatar for every 99 we get? How about letting us kill banners and avatars?

19-Oct-2013 03:47:55 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2013 03:56:36 by Blindmango

Colin Chan
Dec Member 2020

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I dont understand why Jagex wants to spend time making new updates like Prestige,which aren't supported by majority of the playerbase, instead of fixing bugs such as dual-casting magic in Dungeoneering and renovating games like Soul Wars and Barbarian Assault so that more people are interested in playing those games.

Like seriously, there needs to be more updates on the CURRENT features of Runescape, and not more updates for NEW features of Runescape, especially on updates like this.

19-Oct-2013 04:14:07

Samification
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Samification

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I voted "no" on this poll, but not because I hate the idea of prestige. I do not have any 99's, and that also isn't the reason. Many people are disliking this, and I think that as a community we can put together a new system or even tweak the prestige system so that it works in a good way for the game. I want to see the alternatives before going on ahead with one idea.

19-Oct-2013 04:16:54

Red Silk Vow
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Poseidon986 said :

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Why does it have to be either / or? Why not AND? Changing the exp cap requires code alterations to the entire game, at every level, and can present unpleasant bugs.

A good example is changing your virtual memory pagefile size. You can have hundreds of gigs to throw into it, but doing so will make very nasty things happen VERY quickly.

Poseidon986 said :

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People quitting because they want to stick with the same way of doing something for over a decade is their choice. They have the option to pop momentum and have virtually the same experience, so leaving over EoC is essentially a temper tantrum.

Prestige doesn't replace new content. It can be used in tandem with it, much like how creating Divination doesn't mean older gathering skills never again receive an update or are removed- in fact, updating them means the usefulness of both increase.

Poseidon986 said :

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It doesn't work the same way as increasing the cap at all- caps get hit again. prestige can be reset repeatedly.

It can also be used simultaneously with 120 skills and new content, even though those on their own do absolutely nothing to make non-current-max content anymore useful - prestige does, even if only minorly.

Poseidon986 said :

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Just because you don't enjoy a skill enough to continue it after hitting 99 or 200m doesn't mean other people don't. I know someone who has 200m in prayer exp and it's the only thing he trains. I know someone who has 200m magic exp, and it's the only thing she trains. The list goes on.

New content has been created the entire time the game has existed that increases training rates and expands the size of the game. prestige won't stop that - it'll provide further reason for people to do so and reward those who already do it. It can make skilling useful again.

19-Oct-2013 04:46:59

Red Silk Vow
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Faultysanity said :

Letting maxed rich players buy all the resources will hinder newer players. They are at an obvious disadvantage. The only way this would work, is if your bank and cash stack and quests were all prestiged as well..

That sounds familiar.. oh right start a new account. you're prestiged.

And no offense but i'll make that board way before you, hiscore me first before accusations.

You mean new players can make money skilling before they hit 80/90 in most things?

How absolutely terrible for them!

They might be able to make money in pvm before they unlock ss/sgs/chaotics+vampyric scrimshaw/blood blitz/barrage and can sit on bandos 24/7 or do the currently highest tier of bosses that exist?

How absolutely terrible for them!

They might run into players doing low level prestige instead of sitting at QBD / Nex / KK all day trying to make enough bank for seismics and/or store up for the next endgame update?

How absolutely terrible for them!

G U T H I X said :
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Their exp isn't wasted even without automatically getting four prestiges for free. Take a look at the last example picture in the blog- people are 1400 total levels apart and only 30-40m. If it concerns you so much... ask for an option to sort it by total exp instead of by total prestiges.

Broke Dog said :
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People's work in the current hiscores will never be changed - the prestige hiscore is separate and wouldn't replace it, especially with all the feedback concerning it.

Someone with rank 1 and 200m exp will always have that- even if they never prestige. I know there's an example somewhere of a popular player with a 200m who died, like oldnight or something like that, but I could be confusing him with someone else. He'll never disappear, even despite never being able to prestige.

19-Oct-2013 04:56:07

Red Silk Vow
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Colin Chan said :
I dont understand why Jagex wants to spend time making new updates like Prestige,which aren't supported by majority of the playerbase, instead of fixing bugs such as dual-casting magic in Dungeoneering and renovating games like Soul Wars and Barbarian Assault so that more people are interested in playing those games.

Like seriously, there needs to be more updates on the CURRENT features of Runescape, and not more updates for NEW features of Runescape, especially on updates like this.

They can do both.

You think that they aren't making new quests and working on updating minigames like they are the Barrows just because someone designed new cosmetic outfits?

And you honestly think someone who can do QBD or Nex or KK or Vorago is going to do Shade or Vyre burning or minigames along those lines unless they make it stupidly overpowered unless they're doing it because of friends, in which case, they probably are already doing it?

And unless we get a massive influx of new players, and I'm talking a 500%+ increase in playerbase size, do you think skilling is going to become useful for anybody who hasn't hit 80/90 in it?

Do you think pvm is going to become useful before GWD or 80/90 levels?

New content alone doesn't save the game because new players aren't going to stick around as often if the road to endgame isn't constantly getting better, and Prestige can at least partially strengthen that. If we add new content that takes advantage of that as well, we get three birds with one stone since people who don't prestige can still utilize things from new players and those who choose to prestige to get their super duper amulets of ultra crazy hulk strength or whatever you want to imagine being invented.

19-Oct-2013 05:03:34 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2013 05:04:31 by Red Silk Vow

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