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Mr RobinHood

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Ingmar said :
Main X said :
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial..

Welcome to democracy, I hope you enjoy your stay.


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I believe this game takes place in a time of king and queens? Hopefully when they redo this system they don't take into account the peasants :-D Welcome to Runescape, which I know you enjoyed cause you have stayed
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17-Oct-2013 14:44:56

test8997

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Main X said :
I've honestly gone through 12 pages so far, and I have yet to see any valid reason for a person to vote "no". All the people who've said no to this, are because they don't want to lose their current spot on the hi-scores, or because they want a different update.
Jagex, please, please, do not listen to the voice of the illogical and idiotic.
There is no good reason NOT to introduce prestige.
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial.

Prestige would be the best update this game has had in a LONG time, and it would also bring back a lot of the lost player-base.

If Prestige actually gets pushed-back for release, or not released at all, I'm extremely disappointed and will have lost the last hope for this game.



Edit: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER GAME UPDATES. The people voting no, because they'd rather see a different update, need to just have their votes ignored.
Also, these people asking for level 120 in skills are ridiculous. Ever since dungeoneering came around with the 120 skill cap, everyone got this idea in their head that every skill should be raised to a 120 cap. This would imbalance the game beyond belief, and would require years to release updates for new 120 armours/weapons/bosses levels. These kind of people need to too also be ignored.


Wow... I read that wall of text and never EVER saw someone with so much rage over people with a different opinion O_o I thought I was bad but this puts me to shame on Raging.


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17-Oct-2013 14:46:14

King Bibbler
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"If the prestige system was really aimed at the majority of high lvl players as you so claim I'm almost certain that the majority of us high lvl players would much rather prefer skill lvls increased from 99 to 120. Yea, you say that increasing skill lvl caps would take a lot of time but doesn't everything that comes out great take a lot of time too? Even if it would take a year at the drawing board I would still be for 120 lvls."

A quote spoken here earlier ^

~~~~I disagree with this with all my heart. I don't particularly like prestige however I think it's a far superior idea to raising all skills to 120. The reason I think prestige is a superior idea is because it's impractical. If you raise all skills to 120 you effectively put the endgame beyond 99.999% of the population as 120 skills in game would provide practical in game advantages to those who got lvl 120 vs prestige which would only provide cosmetics. Suddenly being an endgame character would only be a thing for people who played 16+ hours per day and a thing of the past for 99.9% of the population as you would need nearly 3B xp to be maxed which only ~15 players have in the 14 years this game has existed.

It's totally unrealistic to expect anyone to be maxed and achieve all 120 skills provided that statistic therefore I think it's a terrible idea to make anything beyond 99 and 120 for dg ONLY practical.

Everyone wants to be the internet tough guy and pretend that they would be one of the people to get 120 all skills and be all for the update. The truth is if you are outside of the top 50 you don't have a prayer, and I don't think the people who support all skills to 120 have taken the time to think through that there is a 99.999999% probability they will never reach what they are supporting, and the result will be their character always being weaker than someone elses rather than equal.

I don't care about infinite hiscores, I do fear the threat of inability to have all practical in game abilities.

17-Oct-2013 14:47:59

Main X

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test8997 said :
Main X said :
I've honestly gone through 12 pages so far, and I have yet to see any valid reason for a person to vote "no". All the people who've said no to this, are because they don't want to lose their current spot on the hi-scores, or because they want a different update.
Jagex, please, please, do not listen to the voice of the illogical and idiotic.
There is no good reason NOT to introduce prestige.
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial.

Prestige would be the best update this game has had in a LONG time, and it would also bring back a lot of the lost player-base.

If Prestige actually gets pushed-back for release, or not released at all, I'm extremely disappointed and will have lost the last hope for this game.



Edit: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER GAME UPDATES. The people voting no, because they'd rather see a different update, need to just have their votes ignored.
Also, these people asking for level 120 in skills are ridiculous. Ever since dungeoneering came around with the 120 skill cap, everyone got this idea in their head that every skill should be raised to a 120 cap. This would imbalance the game beyond belief, and would require years to release updates for new 120 armours/weapons/bosses levels. These kind of people need to too also be ignored.


Wow... I read that wall of text and never EVER saw someone with so much rage over people with a different opinion O_o I thought I was bad but this puts me to shame on Raging.


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Because it's people holding the game back from a great step forward, for their personal spot on the current hi-scores.

17-Oct-2013 14:48:28

Kirith Kirin

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I voted no.

The Prestige system wouldn't solve the problem that it sets out to solve.

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With this update, the hiscore tables will unlock and once again the top spot will be occupied by the player who worked the hardest, not the one who got there first.


The player who worked the hardest is also the one who "got there first." The difference between the old "there" and the new "there" is that the new one has no upper bound, so there isn't ever an end-- in other words, the horrible mad rush to 99 that happened when Divination came out would go on forever. As staff, you probably noticed what the "competitive" players were doing at the time-- pulling off long hours of "working hard," sleeping not much at all, and skipping work. I don't think you want to encourage that sort of gameplay.

Also, at the person who said this:

Main X said :
Ingmar said :
Main X said :
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial..

Welcome to democracy, I hope you enjoy your stay.


~Ingmar


And that's why nothing gets better.


Democracy works because people take their own self-interest into consideration. Amalgamated self-interest is supposedly a good thing. Go read Rousseau.

17-Oct-2013 14:49:27 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 14:50:30 by Kirith Kirin

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Main X said :
Ingmar said :
Main X said :
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial..

Welcome to democracy, I hope you enjoy your stay.


~Ingmar


And that's why nothing gets better.

Well, in this case I quite like the results. As I said in my previous post, if my hard work would've had a place I would've voted yes.

You cannot expect all the veterans of this game to just give up their experience in order to open up the highscores for new players. I mean really, who are these new players and why would they be entitled to such a thing?
On the other side, joining and realising that you have no chance of ever reaching #1 in your favourite skill isn't exactly nice either
(assuming that new players are still looking to grind, which is something I seriously doubt)
. Hence the compromise, our current XP gets carried over to the prestige system and the veterans have an advantage, a well earned one, but the highscores are opened up for new players all the same.

But that wasn't an option, so no it is.

PS: Encouraging someone to ignore people with different opinions usually leads to a very stale and boring system - it isn't all black and white.



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17-Oct-2013 14:49:46

King Bibbler
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King Bibbler

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Voted yes for prestige across multiple accounts, just so Jagex doesn't get the idea that they should implement 120 all skills as an alternative and make the longest rpg to max as it is...... infinitely far beyond everyone's reach and thus impossible to for PRACTICAL PURPOSES max out.

17-Oct-2013 14:49:49

Ge9
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Ge9

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Alexander V said :

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I fear that the Prestige system would encourage (whether intentional or not) unhealthy and excessive gameplay. Perhaps a better solution would be to increase levels to 120 and add new content to the existing skills instead of just encouraging players to accumulate unreasonable amounts of experience with the same content again and again.


I couldn't agree more. The competition in this game shouldn't be about meaningless xp, rather to reach new heights in-game. Honestly, what fun is it to compete for the first place when in a matter of skills the entire top of the highscore list can do exactly the same?
Let's crank up the max levels for some skills and see who's first to become the best woodcutter, summoner, etc.
When I see updates like this and divination, I can't help but to miss the days when summoning, hunter, etc. came out... When new updates and skills had a relation to other skills and actually had an ingame functionality. Divination and Prestige both seems like quick fixes. They needed a new skill for RS3, so they made up just another skill that focuses on AFK training and has no real use, and honestly is just a copy of the Runespan. The highscores are starting to tie too much, so you can now try to complete the game more than once, having to gain more and more xp each time.
Maybe if Jagex were to focus on the new content instead of just filling more cosmetic *beep* into Solomon's and sending out half solutions, the competition would naturally start to come back :P

17-Oct-2013 14:50:36

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