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SlR
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The only thing I reckon they need to change about TH is: make it less about EXP rewards and more about cosmetics. They've already started by reducing keys to 10 bought daily, what are your thoughts on that? There are problems, sure, but I think they're slowly rectifying them.
- The issue they have with cosmetics won via TH is, is that going to be enticing enough?
- EXP is an easy one because it bypasses hours of grinding gameplay, who doesn't love that.
They've mentioned countless times that TH accounts for a large sum of their income. If we want regular updates, support, etc. It's just something we'll have to learn to live with.

As for the scrimshaw dupe (which is not confirmed), those things cannot be high-alched, so I don't think it'll have made much impact. JAGEX will have wealth graphs on the back-end to catch people making an unusual amount in such a short period of time. Most will get banned.

Start worrying about the game when they stop making updates or start laying off staff.
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06-Feb-2023 16:21:17 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2023 16:32:41 by SlR

Dilbert2001
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emotions said :
I'd say it's not as popular as way back in the day.


"Popularity" means nothing, especially when it comes from relentlessly spending until the well is dry.

Evidently, vast majority of the AAA games like EA and Blizzard aren't "popular" but they keep growing and growing and growing. AAA games don't become AAA because they are "popular". They became AAA only because they keep making money and keep rolling the snowballs.

06-Feb-2023 17:53:47

XSlay4DeathX
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SlR said :
They've already started by reducing keys to 10 bought daily
, what are your thoughts on that? There are problems, sure, but I think they're slowly rectifying them.
- The issue they have with cosmetics won via TH is, is that going to be enticing enough?
- EXP is an easy one because it bypasses hours of grinding gameplay, who doesn't love that.
They've mentioned countless times that TH accounts for a large sum of their income
. If we want regular updates, support, etc. It's just something we'll have to learn to live with.

LMAO....TH is trash, loyalty points was for cosmetics then solomons, read that red text and go up the green text, that is why they limited it, 'so you buy more keys'.

This game is dying to a degree, it won't die tho, but the player base isn't as strong.

Updates now VS updates pre- spin tickets, things actually gotten fixed.

If MTX is challenged in court, many game companies face huge backlash. <---you think this is impossible? "End of an Era document' is real, this document's contents target the legal system, lawyer practices, motives, failures, bias creation in the system and final nail in the coffin...'How the lawyer system itself is being abused by companies against the people'.

^and it doesn't just target MTX in video games, it targets everything, its tactic is a point of view and motive tracing chart and theory. <---arm an AI with this programming chart and bye bye demand for lawyers. But nah, i'm for job creation and i know the world has a job deficit.

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It goes like this, if a company fixes and maintains the main game more people will play it, MTX is always a bonus, most games that have it are free. My view of jagex, they put more soul into MTX than the main game.

^it does derail players to find better games, 99s are so easy now, dead content chains are worse then ever before...I only play because i'm maxed. OSRS is fun though.

07-Feb-2023 00:26:01

SlR
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Sure, reducing oddment-bought keys to 10 does push people already inclined to buy keys to buy keys. But I was more just pointing out that instant exp is/was too easy to come by. I'd like to see them do a bit of balancing on how often lamps/stars get rewarded. At least with stars you actually have to play the game. Oh and we no longer have those '75% off lamps' sales!

I took advantage of those lamp sales every time they were on, that, and the TH promos that were oddment-positive when you converted your prizes. I think I had 100k oddments at one point. It was quite funny tbh. But yeah, look at how many lvl-3 99 slayer accounts there are.

They're working on it, these things take time...

MTX doesn't bother me because I don't consider RS to be a competitive game (anymore). As soon as you make that switch, mentally, you'll start enjoying it for what it is; a casual game :)
- I'd say FSW was competitive though (for the most part) and I enjoyed that.
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07-Feb-2023 12:57:36 - Last edited on 07-Feb-2023 13:12:35 by SlR

Genuisdragon
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So your upset at Jagex for a bug that they had no control over, an update meant to reduce death cost so players who don't pvm very much have some incentive to try as well as the very rich players who have multiple items worth over max cash don't feel punished for making one mistake, as well as Jagex, a company who's purpose is to make money, trying to make money? Jmods can't respond to every single forum post as they don't have the man-power. You're upset at a pay-2-win factor, I dare you to find 1 mmorpg that doesn't have some type of payment system other then membership. With the dxp announcement on Twitter more players would have seen it there rather then then main site. I barely visit the main site besides update day. If I do I go right to the forums. Many people have multiple accounts (I.e. mains and irons). People have been claiming this game is dead for years. The reason we don't see the high numbers like we did back in 07 is because many of those accounts were bots and another large chunk quit because real life got in the way and they don't have time to play anymore. While Jagex could be more transparent it's not by much as many of the Jmods have twitter accounts that they use. The biggest thing we need is a way to attract new players to the game.

08-Feb-2023 02:47:31

Mel 624
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There's definitely some widespread game decisions/lack thereof to complain about in terms of game health/enjoyability. Things like the negative effects of MTX on certain aspects of the game, the way community building elements have been neglected like the forums and minigames, etc. Some updates to address those things and improve the game community would likely help reduce some of the 'Runescape is dying' sentiments people have.

Part of the problem with the MTX stuff is that they wouldn't be so reliant on it if they invested more in things that help increase and keep the playerbase. Community content improvements could help a lot with that.
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08-Feb-2023 02:49:24

Dilbert2001
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Chad Da Mag said :
But I was told buying Bonds saves this game.


Bonds aren't enough. RS3 had an MTX livestream where they pointed out most of the popular MMORPG out there survived on 40-60% MTX revenue and RS3 was right in the middle around 50%. Bonds aren't enough. They contribute perhaps 30-40% of the total revenue only.

IRL, games rely on solely on bond-like MTX to supplement their subscription model won't last long.

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10-Feb-2023 09:23:23

Ruby_Red0
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I dont know what you guys are talking about - reduced to 10 keys?

I was recently offered 450 keys at 50% off. A lot of players dont rely on Oddments from Challenges to amass keys, and clearly there is no limit to what you are willing to pay real life cash for. I can turn around and buy another 450 immediately if I choose too.

I dont resent that. There is plenty I have started resenting, but any business needing to make money is not something I resent. Its easily understandable.

Honestly, when I got that offer it made me think the game must not be doing so good. It wasnt even a holiday or anything. The owner needs cash. Then you see less and less people logging into the game and it only reinforces that belief that the game is dying.

There are other MMOs that have shut down recently, and were arguably better than this one.
Its foolish to think its an impossibility.

Runescape has its community. Loyal players. Some of them are families that are playing for generations. Its amazing.

The Twitter community doesnt have that ability. The Reddit community doesnt have that ability. The Runescape community has proven they have that ability, yet they seem to be the first to be belittled and ignored.

When was the last time the Devs did a poll on the Runescape forums?

When was the last time they queried the playerbase using the ingame polling boothes?

Im gonna go with 2010, but thats just a guess.

Anyway, nonchalant attitudes regarding your fellow players or the possibility of RS ending are not helping anyone.

If you really dont care, Im thinking maybe you need to change that. Maybe you need to join the Runescape community too.
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11-Feb-2023 01:18:38 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2023 01:20:25 by Ruby_Red0

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