RuneScape Forum Archive | Dislike Necromancy

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Roddy Piper said :

IMO they had to consider what happened with EOC originally. It was a much better idea to make a new combat skill with features players wanted, and then apply those features to other combat in the future.

The risk of losing a ton of players is real. One unexpected change was the overall nerf to combat XP. That leaves a lot of room to improve those other combat skills.

Just applying how hit chance is related to damage would be an immediate improvement to the other skills. IF you can't hit, you might as well not even be playing. Near 100% hit chance is required. Overloads are required. etc.

Thing for me Roddy is it really about the affinitys they have put into the game; if they altered that it would drastically change everything. That the whole thing necro bypasses; so no 45 affinity with a style .

Again with slight adjustments could do the same for other styles; it was just better for them to make a new skill for other issues like damage burst being more controlled. That way they could impletment a new combat system that is easier to use then fixing whats here now; which is still an issue. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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07-Oct-2023 17:45:56

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Tenebri said :
Sheepman said :

Again its not really a bad thing;

then why rant about it?

Perspective;

Good for people who get to use necro and enjoy anything in the game; that was the point.

However as I keep writing its not a good look for the current game/future. Necro having all the keys opened the door for everyone; simply put. Where will that leave the future of PvM? Updates etc for players who wont want to use other styles? Unless its for a speed kill.

Just my end point. FSOA never gave the keys like necro did. Why else do people want to use other styles if one style dominates for everything? Are people gonna want to go back the style swaps?

PS: there has been less players playing since the release of necromancy; VS when the FSOA was released. Necro wasent enough to stop the uproar with Hero pass! <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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07-Oct-2023 17:58:31 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2023 18:01:50 by Sheepman

Jan

2015

Tenebri

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Sheepman said :
Tenebri said :
Sheepman said :

Again its not really a bad thing;

then why rant about it?

Perspective;

Good for people who get to use necro and enjoy anything in the game; that was the point.

However as I keep writing its not a good look for the current game/future. Necro having all the keys opened the door for everyone; simply put. s!

hell no its the complete opposite. its fantastic for the game. more people are able to enjoy more of the game now.

how is that bad for the game when more people are enjoying something they couldnt before?

Sheepman said :

PS: there has been less players playing since the release of necromancy; VS when the FSOA was released. Necro wasent enough to stop the uproar with Hero pass!

thats due to hero pass.

dont be sly and say its because of necromancy. it is not.

you are starting to lose credibility with that comment. very dishonest to say it was due to necromancy. before the release of hero pass (and after necro) the community was happy in the game. when hero pass came out thats when people left.

hell there were even posts on reddit discussing this. that jagex gave us hope with necromancy. then shot us back down with the release of hero pass

(yes hero pass is now not going to be back but thats not the point)

either way you can not say its because of necromancy. it is not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/top/?t=month

what people are unhappy about is hero pass. not necromancy. necromancy people enjoy.

i think this will be my last post now. because of that silly comment.

saying it was necromancy that made people leave. bloody hell. just forget about one of the worse reveals other than eoc. hero pass. smh

this graph also shows this. it went up for necromancy then down after hero pass.

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08-Oct-2023 12:21:28 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2023 12:35:15 by Tenebri

Mar

2020

Pulseironic

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Let's add that with the next quest basically giving us the RS3 version of vorkath we could come to find weapons that need a necromancy and attack/range/magic level to use and deal the non necro damage. We have content potential right here!

08-Oct-2023 12:48:15

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Too many quotes so

Well again Why is necromancy bad if everyone can enjoy the content? Recap

Because its niches the combat triangle, acts as bis for players who might not want to deal with other styles due to affinity nonsense, and if it makes logs easier; why use another style?

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09-Oct-2023 20:26:45

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Let me be clear; its not that necromancy DROVE players away; it just simply did not maintain them when Hero pass removed the daily keys.

The fact so many people where willing to walk away after they had just developed a combat style to make almost everything accessible; really showed a fickle/shill aspect of their own because they are no longer getting freebies to level their account without any sort of input.

I liked keys and hero pass was meh but thats not really the point of the game; the fact they put necro into the game for people to actually play it more; vs get their freebies and they pulled out when the freebies dried up says a lot about the players; but also that the update really diden't get that many people to stick around.

Again I can speculate reasons but cant prove; so I can only state facts like Archelogy and FSOA have always been renowned and around the time of necromancy was a big drop and even if it was hero pass; Necro dident stop it. Fact they had to reinstate the keys says otherwise. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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09-Oct-2023 20:40:02 - Last edited on 09-Oct-2023 21:39:11 by Sheepman

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Pulseironic said :
Let's add that with the next quest basically giving us the RS3 version of vorkath we could come to find weapons that need a necromancy and attack/range/magic level to use and deal the non necro damage. We have content potential right here!

Ugh fact we are getting an osrs boss from "Dragon slayer 2" is barf worthy. Maybe keep the game different? Idk we got alternate universes so its just like a multiverse mess at this point.

Seen something like that in the Art they post like "Necro godsword" but really thats just going to make a bigger mess then just figuring out the affinity issues at this point. Maybe all styles just do necro damage? who knows really dont need another weapon swap for a style you could just camp. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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09-Oct-2023 20:55:52

Sep

2006

Crone924

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I can agree that those who pine to boss may be finding a way through necro to start bossing.

Those who don't give a **** about bossing? This is akin to the EOC update, when they tried to add WoW to Runescape. You WILL learn EOC, or else. (and how many people split for Old School?)

And now it seems some of the quests don't allow people to do the fights in legacy mode?

Ah well, tough. (heavy bleeding sarc alert) They had years to like EOC and learn it, and now others can suck on it and start bossing, like they "should".

Newsflash: there are more kinds of monsters than bosses. Not bossing does not equal not "doing combat". Not everyone longs to do ultimate or extreme combat.

Sorry for the piggyback rant, but haven't trained necro hard in a few weeks--lost interest in hurrying as I got closer to 70. Playing with the combat style, but not as anything other than "well, here's this new thing to slog through", as I am not and have never been a combat junky.

Now, to atone, going over to compliments to say thank you for giving me my daily challenges back, so I have a daily incentive to train dung and archaeology.

10-Oct-2023 02:19:47

Aug

2023

Bertel62

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Sheepman said :
The fact so many people where willing to walk away after they had just developed a combat style to make almost everything accessible; really showed a fickle/shill aspect of their own because they are no longer getting freebies to level their account without any sort of input.
Do we really need such players in the game? I don't think a game should be developed around people who don't play it, and just want XP for doing nothing. That is not what a game is about. The more of these lazy freebie types leave the game, the better.

10-Oct-2023 08:36:00 - Last edited on 10-Oct-2023 08:44:27 by Bertel62

Dec

2021

Sheepman

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Crone924 said :
I can agree that those who pine to boss may be finding a way through necro to start bossing.

Those who don't give a **** about bossing? This is akin to the EOC update, when they tried to add WoW to Runescape. You WILL learn EOC, or else. (and how many people split for Old School?)

And now it seems some of the quests don't allow people to do the fights in legacy mode?

Ah well, tough. (heavy bleeding sarc alert) They had years to like EOC and learn it, and now others can suck on it and start bossing, like they "should".

Funny way to put it; but yes. Most players who played before necromancy (most) enjoy necro simply for its easy access/versatility vs other styles; so most really dident mind.

Im one of the few who few who has to suck it up because I actually enjoy using my style (Melee) But unless its killing frost dragons/lava strykewyrms its really not good for bossing like necro in its current build. So I guess ill be sitting with the legacy dorks who will be going back to OS and cheering the OSRS boss for rs3 on. <<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<
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14-Oct-2023 15:06:33

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