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@Tenebri ... '
Jagex/JMods are able to take away bonds from RuneScape and nothing is changed in RuneScape nor OldSchool RuneScape
' ... thereby a bond is not an ingame item at all.

Jagex/JMods have added bonds to RuneScape/OldSchool RuneScape for other reasons, ... other than being na ingame item.

27-Nov-2023 13:17:42

Tenebri
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... continued

OP is asking what the cause is. you saying "its merchers" and providing nothing to go with it, is not helpful

its harmful it gives the wrong impression on merching actually is. you are implying its something negative. when it is not

id rather be discussing actual factual claims, but unfortunately its just your disinformation.
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27-Nov-2023 13:19:06

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
@Tenebri ... '
Jagex/JMods are able to take away bonds from RuneScape and nothing is changed in RuneScape nor OldSchool RuneScape
' ... thereby a bond is not an ingame item at all.

Jagex/JMods have added bonds to RuneScape/OldSchool RuneScape for other reasons, ... other than being na ingame item.

you know what the sake of getting this on track. im just going agree. sure bonds are not an ingame item. its really not important either way

now lets get to whats important.

Tenebri said :



Tenebri said :


so again i ask politely

Tenebri said :


please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a
claim with 0 evidence


.

just a bit of evidence is all i ask. it shouldnt be too difficult if its true. and so far its been a page of you avoiding it.
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27-Nov-2023 13:21:33 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 14:24:59 by Tenebri

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Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :
@Tenebri ... '
Jagex/JMods are able to take away bonds from RuneScape and nothing is changed in RuneScape nor OldSchool RuneScape
' ... thereby a bond is not an ingame item at all.

Jagex/JMods have added bonds to RuneScape/OldSchool RuneScape for other reasons, ... other than being na ingame item.

you know what the sake of getting this on track. im just going agree. sure bonds are not an ingame item. its really not important either way

now lets get to whats important. ... Yes lets get this on track.

'
Bonds are a Payment Method
' and shouldn't be subject to trades/merchanting.

Yet 'bonds are made subject to trades/merchanting' hence players can ask what they want for someone else to pay for bonds. Bonds can also be 'hoarded/stacked' so others have to raise their payment to even get one. Bonds have become a market item.

This has to stop. Even a cap of 500 is totally absurd as it almost equals 20 years of membership.
Do the math ...

27-Nov-2023 19:47:44

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :
@Tenebri ... '
Jagex/JMods are able to take away bonds from RuneScape and nothing is changed in RuneScape nor OldSchool RuneScape
' ... thereby a bond is not an ingame item at all.

Jagex/JMods have added bonds to RuneScape/OldSchool RuneScape for other reasons, ... other than being na ingame item.

you know what the sake of getting this on track. im just going agree. sure bonds are not an ingame item. its really not important either way

now lets get to whats important. ... Yes lets get this on track.

'
Bonds are a Payment Method
' and shouldn't be subject to trades/merchanting.
.

okay if you want to get on track, the discussion was merchers are the ones causing the issue, you went into "bonds arent ingame items" as a derailment, you need to actually provide evidence that merchers are the problem. that was the discussion here.

if you are just going to avoid what should be a simple question for you, then we are done here. as you clearly cant back up your claims. if you cant do that, then i see no reason to carry this on

you think merchers are the issue, i say its not, ive provided reasoning as to why to back up my claims, you cant. you just keep avoiding it.

i wasnt expecting you to avoid it to this extent, i was thinking youd actually provide something. but all its been is avoidance to the question

Tenebri said :


Tenebri said :



Tenebri said :


so again i ask politely

Tenebri said :


please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a claim with 0 evidence

.

you cant have this belief with 0 evidence.
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27-Nov-2023 19:53:23 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 20:02:29 by Tenebri

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2_Tron said :


This has to stop. Even a cap of 500 is totally absurd as it almost equals 20 years of membership.
Do the math ...
well the math of 500 bonds is 25 years of membership.
500/20 = 25

but whats the issue here?

i want to see your workings out.

this is what ive been asking for for what 2 pages now?

please show me. your math or whatever as to why its so bad people flip bonds for money.

right now its just been your opinion. which is fun n all but im sorry its not worth much
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27-Nov-2023 20:03:48 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 20:07:27 by Tenebri

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The evidence is in the Grand Exchange ... if bonds weren't subject to merchants the Grand Exchange would provide a '
fixed price
' unable to be changed.
Jagex/JMods would have set a fixed price for bonds not subject for change in any way.

The fact that it has a limit also is a strong indicator that external control had to be added to not let it go out of hand. Yet it is out of hand and becoming nastier for other players.

Bonds are a way to make slaves out of players, players that do wish to use this '
Payment Method for membership/purchases
'.

27-Nov-2023 20:05:40

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
The evidence is in the Grand Exchange ... if bonds weren't subject to merchants the Grand Exchange would provide a '
fixed price
' unable to be changed.
Jagex/JMods would have set a fixed price for bonds not subject for change in any way.



this isnt evidence dude. there is nothing here that is evidence.

i can say the exact same but say the evidence is in the grand exchange, the prices arent being effected by merchers.


see i can say that, it holds no substance as there is nothing to back it up.
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27-Nov-2023 20:08:47

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :

Do the math ...

i want to see your workings out.

this is what ive been asking for for what 2 pages now?

please show me. 1 bond is half a month ... a years membership is 24 bonds. 500 bonds is 20,8 years.

20 bonds is 1 year

i do it every year on 2 accounts.





considering this bombshell. im done here. im just wasting my time


you cant provide actual evidence, the best you got to was "look at the ge" where hell ive spent a lot of time looking at the ge and bond prices.

and now this.



here is evidence to show its updates / events / th that change prices of bonds,

Tenebri said :
look heres evidence that its not that updates have a bigger / majority of impact

yesterday selling 73m as an instant sell,
today just after the new update came out 84.5m instant buy


this is evidence,

what you are saying is not evidence


not merchers. i was really hoping you would prove me wrong. as that would have been interesting read. all i got was "look at the ge"
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27-Nov-2023 20:09:53 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 20:16:47 by Tenebri

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