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Tenebri
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Tenebri

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2_Tron said :

The purpose of bonds wasn't to be a tool for merchants to control the game. It never was.



indeed,
but that isnt happening
.

please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a
claim with 0 evidence



2_Tron said :


The prupose of bonds was ... through gameplay paying for a persons membership.

.

and that still happens, that is the main use of bonds.
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27-Nov-2023 11:47:04 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 11:51:26 by Tenebri

2_Tron

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Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :

The purpose of bonds wasn't to be a tool for merchants to control the game. It never was.



indeed,
but that isnt happening
.

please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a
claim with 0 evidence
Tenebri said :
...

there are a number of reasons bonds increase or decrease in price

inflation
th events
promotions
updates
days of the year (november being when majority need to renew premier as it use to be november you could do it)

merching is a legitimate way of making money in the game, and jagex have done something with bonds for that,
1. there is a cap of 500
2. to make them tradeable again costs 10% of the ge value

why do you want to punish a legitimate play style for no reason other than "bonds have gone up" when it isnt 100% down to merchers.

people like to jump on "its the merchers fault" just an easy scapegoat. when in reality it holds very little position in changing the actual price of the item. the ones i have listed do way more

but this is a free market in runescape, and this comes with that, people are going to hoard to try make money, but its not 100% going to work it is a risk that can also lose a lot of money.

...

27-Nov-2023 11:51:23

Tenebri
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you quoted my post on other reasons why bonds go up. that isnt to do with merchers

to prove merchers are the reason?


good job man. thats amazing....

ill wait in hopes there are edits. or more to come. because all this shows is you have no evidence and like i said (and you have now quoted) you are using merchers as an easy scapegoat.

smh i was expecting better
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27-Nov-2023 11:52:23 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 11:54:15 by Tenebri

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
Bonds aren't an ingame item ... yet they are treated/used as one.

.

they
are an ingame
item. but they are not treated as one. you are losing more and more crediblity points
they have a max of 500. that is not being treated the same as other items. as other items its 2.1b limit
to trade them you need to pay 10% of their value as a gp sink to be able to sell them again. not the same as other items.


its traded player to player (ingame)
via grand exchange (ingame)


is this really
your best
to prove merchers are the cause?

you are doing the opposite
right now. as you are struggling with even the slightest jist its due to the merchers.


2_Tron said :

That's not fair.

what is not fair?

this is a game
we all have the
same opportunities,
this isnt to do with rng etc where someone get blood dye in 1 elite, others go 4k dry,
this is just buying an item in hopes it goes up in price
. which we all can use to do. a
nd we can all make logical guesses
as to when is good and when is bad to buy
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27-Nov-2023 11:54:40 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 12:17:53 by Tenebri

Tenebri
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look heres evidence that its not that updates have a bigger / majority of impact

yesterday selling 73m as an instant sell,
today just after the new update came out 84.5m instant buy


this is evidence,

what you are saying is not evidence

so again i ask politely

Tenebri said :


please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a
claim with 0 evidence


.
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27-Nov-2023 12:05:52 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 12:19:08 by Tenebri

2_Tron

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Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :
Bonds aren't an ingame item ... yet they are treated/used as one.

.

they
are an ingame
item. ... Where in RuneScape besides the Grand Exchange ... where can I get this item?

Bonds can be purchased through the Grand Exchange but that doesn't mean it is an ingame item alike ore/armour etc. etc.
Bonds can be gifted by other players to make it easier for players to exchange, similar as obtaining them through the Grand Exchange.

Hoarding them is taking away chances for other players and use that mechanic to let the prise go through the roof of the Grand Exchange.

they have a max of 500. that is not being treated the same as other items. as other items its 2.1b limit

What need to say more ... for evidence.

Merchers are the cause ... otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent in getting this swept off the table under the carpet.

27-Nov-2023 13:05:47

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :
Bonds aren't an ingame item ... yet they are treated/used as one.

.

they
are an ingame
item. ... Where in RuneScape besides the Grand Exchange ... where can I get this item?

.
that is not the defining factor on what is an ingame item. an ingame item is one that is an item usable ingame. a bond is that.

but what i asked you and you are dancing around, is providing evidence that mercher is the problem

stop dancing around the question and provide anything. that can be used for that. then we can finally settle this



2_Tron said :


Merchers are the cause ... otherwise you wouldn't be so persistent in getting this swept off the table under the carpet.
if you can provide any logical reasoning for it being correct please do.

so far you have not been able to in the slightest

you are now trying to get personal which is not a good sign.


Tenebri said :


so again i ask politely

Tenebri said :


please
provide any evidence
to prove that its merchers.


right now its a
claim with 0 evidence


.
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27-Nov-2023 13:11:45 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 13:15:44 by Tenebri

Tenebri
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Tenebri

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2_Tron said :


Hoarding them is taking away chances for other players and use that mechanic to let the prise go through the roof of the Grand Exchange.

.

that is not how it works

all you are doing here is showing you have very little understanding on this im sorry

not only have i asked you more than once to provide any type of evidence for this claim, which you havent been able to do.

you are now showing very little understanding.


what you have also ignored

is my evidence to show that updates have a bigger effect on the prices of items

Tenebri said :
look heres evidence that its not that updates have a bigger / majority of impact

yesterday selling 73m as an instant sell,
today just after the new update came out 84.5m instant buy


this is evidence,
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27-Nov-2023 13:12:38 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 13:17:00 by Tenebri

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