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2_Tron

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Dilbert2001 said :
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" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

If we don't mention Proto___, how could we still have a constructive and educated discussion?

" There was a player who did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

12-Dec-2023 21:37:37

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2006

Dilbert2001

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@2_Tron

Again, what do you think about this comment:

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

It is definitely hearsay, do you think we should not mention Proto__, and do you think we should report such comment?

12-Dec-2023 21:38:27

2_Tron

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The quickest way to turn your discussion on track is to avoid reporting in the first place and answer the post, if you want to, with no reference to any player whatsoever. Just ignore it.

It can be painful and it can take some time but sometimes some players are phishing you, that you start reporting ...

All so pointless ... just stick to your plan and discuss 'Sailing'.

12-Dec-2023 21:44:26

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2006

Dilbert2001

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2_Tron said :
The quickest way to turn your discussion on track is to avoid reporting in the first place and answer the post, if you want to, with no reference to any player whatsoever. Just ignore it.

It can be painful and it can take some time but sometimes some players are phishing you, that you start reporting ...

All so pointless ... just stick to your plan and discuss 'Sailing'.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't think you have addressed the most important part which is the fairness and constructiveness of the RSOF to all players.

I don't care about "pointless" and "painful", because fairness is fairness in the real world.

Once more time, do you want to share your opinion on if this comment is not allowed in the RSOF:

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

12-Dec-2023 21:49:40

Mrs Ana

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Dilbert2001 said :
Why can't we mention other players when they publicly share their opinions on Sailing? You can mention players, as long as it isn't done in a derogatory manner. Even if such a player said something that may or may not have been naming and shaming to your standards on a third-party website , it doesn't mean that it's OK to share those details here on the RSOFs, which, by the looks of the F-Mods' responses to both your hidden and clarification posts, it is against the rules to do so. I'm sure that you could have conveyed your opinion on the thread without having to mention the personal details that described the players' actions on Twitch.
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Dilbert2001 said :
So let's say Zezi__ said why they loved to play Runescpae so much on Twitch, we can't mentioned Zezi__ said why we should play Runescape in the RSOF? How does the context work if we left out Zezima in the discussion? This is totally fine to do so, as long as it isn't something that degrades his or her character or something too personal to share here on the RSOFs. Basically, anything that you'd considering naming/shaming. Anything negative.

12-Dec-2023 21:55:07

Mrs Ana

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Dilbert2001 said :
And when the discussion is why did people quit Runescape, and Zezi__ said he quit Runescape because this and that... how is there anything left for discussion if we don't mention Zezi__? Again, if the reason he or she quit isn't too much to share, then I don't see a reason why it would be against the rules.

For example,

" Player X has finally quit RuneScape because they feel that RuneScape is boring ."

" Player X shared with their friends on Twitch that the reason why they quit RuneScape was due to substance addiction. "

Do you see the difference? I don't think we need to decipher which one would be fine and which one would be considered a bit too much, i.e., naming and shaming, EVEN if Player X publicly and personally shared that on Twitch, a third-party website .

It's important to mention that, depending on context , quitting threads aren't allowed.
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Dilbert2001 said :

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

I personally don't see anything wrong with the example above. I'm assuming someone would mention a specific player depending on the context of the thread in question. Given the above, the thread's topic would be somewhat related to player potions and if a player is ought to be mentioned, it's for a specific reason.

All in all, I don't see anything negative, derogatory, insulting or shameful about the specific example you just shared.

12-Dec-2023 21:55:11 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2023 21:56:57 by Mrs Ana

2_Tron

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Dilbert2001 said :
2_Tron said :
The quickest way to turn your discussion on track is to avoid reporting in the first place and answer the post, if you want to, with no reference to any player whatsoever. Just ignore it.

It can be painful and it can take some time but sometimes some players are phishing you, that you start reporting ...

All so pointless ... just stick to your plan and discuss 'Sailing'.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't think you have addressed the most important part which is the fairness and constructiveness of the RSOF to all players.

I don't care about "pointless" and "painful", because fairness is fairness in the real world.

Once more time, do you want to share your opinion on if this comment is not allowed in the RSOF:

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

If player 'Proto__' sees you, or others, mentioning him/her in your discussion about 'Sailing' and he/she dislikes that you or others do that, have mentioned him/her without consent,
player 'Proto__' is allowed to make a request in Forum Help to FMods and let these posts being made hidden because there was no consent.

Thus ... your discussion ends to be constructive as posts mentioning player 'Proto__' are all being made hidden and you have a gap in your discussion.

12-Dec-2023 22:01:33

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2006

Dilbert2001

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@Mrs Ana

Thank you for your comment on the "derogatory manner" part. I think it is a matter of misunderstanding from the Fmods side. However, it is really not that big an issue as long as referencing a player without "derogatory" comments is fine.

I agree with you on the Proto__ quote, I see it as 100% fine and constructive within RSOF rules. Hence I also think comments like this will be equally 100% fine and constructive within RSOF rules:

"Mai_____ did a video, said he needed a change and will be taking a break on <certain content> he has been playing for weeks, and _Trolled_ is leaving <certain content> on <certain game> for a while to play other games because <certain content> is getting boring"

Anybody see anything wrong with this comment?

12-Dec-2023 22:08:23

2_Tron

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Dilbert2001 said :
2_Tron said :
The quickest way to turn your discussion on track is to avoid reporting in the first place and answer the post, if you want to, with no reference to any player whatsoever. Just ignore it.

It can be painful and it can take some time but sometimes some players are phishing you, that you start reporting ...

All so pointless ... just stick to your plan and discuss 'Sailing'.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't think you have addressed the most important part which is the fairness and constructiveness of the RSOF to all players.

I don't care about "pointless" and "painful", because fairness is fairness in the real world.

Once more time, do you want to share your opinion on if this comment is not allowed in the RSOF:

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

About '
fairness
' ... have you witnessed how much work you are putting into '
bending/flexing the rules
' so it gives you a comfortable environment to work with to get away with things Jagex/JMods/FMods asked you to avoid to maintain a healthy forum-environment.

You are in no ways taking the obvious route avoiding mayhem but you wanna stir the whole place upside down so it fits your workings ...

12-Dec-2023 22:16:22

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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2_Tron said :
Dilbert2001 said :
2_Tron said :
The quickest way to turn your discussion on track is to avoid reporting in the first place and answer the post, if you want to, with no reference to any player whatsoever. Just ignore it.

It can be painful and it can take some time but sometimes some players are phishing you, that you start reporting ...

All so pointless ... just stick to your plan and discuss 'Sailing'.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't think you have addressed the most important part which is the fairness and constructiveness of the RSOF to all players.

I don't care about "pointless" and "painful", because fairness is fairness in the real world.

Once more time, do you want to share your opinion on if this comment is not allowed in the RSOF:

" Proto__ did a video saying it only boosts prayer potions by 20-30 points per dose which isn't worth the slot "

If player 'Proto__' sees you, or others, mentioning him/her in your discussion about 'Sailing' and he/she dislikes that you or others do that, have mentioned him/her without consent,
player 'Proto__' is allowed to make a request in Forum Help to FMods and let these posts being made hidden because there was no consent.

Thus ... your discussion ends to be constructive as posts mentioning player 'Proto__' are all being made hidden and you have a gap in your discussion.

First, comments made on public and social media don't require permissions of the commenters to be quoted, not even Joe Biden's.

Second, I understand players like Proto__ can make a FH request too, but they will have to file it themselves on FH, right?

Third, I don't believe you have my consent to quote me anywhere in the RSOF either, but if I report you for quoting me without my consent, I believe my request will not be honored.

12-Dec-2023 22:18:45

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