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Draco Burnz
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If someone is doing this repeatedly to annoy others, then they should be reported. I mean forum help exists for this exact purpose.

Dont see how that shows why this should happen?

Plus fmods themselves say all the time that you should just ignore ppl you dont like thus proving even more that this shouldnt happen.
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13-Jun-2022 03:16:03 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2022 03:17:28 by Draco Burnz

Spearmint30
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Draco Burnz said :
Plus fmods themselves say all the time that you should just ignore ppl you dont like thus proving even more that this shouldnt happen. I disagree. Just because that's the only way to do something at present and, as such, is the only advice that can be given as the proposed ignore tools do not exist, it does not show nor "prove" that this shouldn't happen.
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13-Jun-2022 03:41:22

Mel 624
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Draco Burnz said :
Plus fmods themselves say all the time that you should just ignore ppl you dont like thus proving even more that this shouldnt happen.

This actually supports my point and I already touched on that by explaining why it's unreasonable to expect people to consistently and effectively do that without being given an actual ignore option to hide the posts from view.

Hiding the posts of someone you're expected to ignore makes that an actually feasible request of people when it's the most common response to issues between forum users. It also means they'll have to delete less comments from people getting upset at eachother and fewer cases where it's gone on too long to delete them. Sometimes stuff like that can get severe enough to kill the whole thread, which would be less of a problem if there was an ignore feature.

You have yet to really address that an ignore feature would help people do exactly what you keep saying they should be doing in those situations or how opposing that in the way you've been so far comes off like wanting to make it a lot harder than it needs to be for no actual benefit. How to block a forum user

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13-Jun-2022 04:08:34

Spearmint30
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333333333 said :
I don't see why we need this! Blocking a user doesn't prevent that user to jump on another account and repeat! You're right, it doesn't prevent that - however, the player is going to have no idea who in the thread they're posting on is ignoring them, so how will they know which alt to use to be an annoyance?

Are they going to just spam the same thing across multiple posts with their multiple accounts hoping one of the posts will get the jab in?

Seems like a non-issue to me, so doesn't really show why this is not needed.
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13-Jun-2022 09:54:09

Draco Burnz
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Spearmint30 said :
I disagree. Just because that's the only way to do something at present and, as such, is the only advice that can be given as the proposed ignore tools do not exist, it does not show nor "prove" that this shouldn't happen.

Please explain how it doesnt as you dont really go into much detail here^.
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13-Jun-2022 23:30:27

Draco Burnz
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Spearmint30 said :
You're right, it doesn't prevent that - however, the player is going to have no idea who in the thread they're posting on is ignoring them, so how will they know which alt to use to be an annoyance?

Are they going to just spam the same thing across multiple posts with their multiple accounts hoping one of the posts will get the jab in?

Seems like a non-issue to me, so doesn't really show why this is not needed.

Yes just this whole thing is a non-issue as it can be easily solved as is.

Plus theres been plenty of times ppl have used alts to continue using the forums so why dont you think this wouldnt happen?

Plus once again, anyone breaking rules should be reported and last i checked spamming is considered rule breaking.
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13-Jun-2022 23:32:58

Mel 624
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333333333 said :
I don't see why we need this! Blocking a user doesn't prevent that user to jump on another account and repeat!

That's generally called sockpuppeting, which many forums and other text based sites have rules about. That's also not really a reason keep people from blocking players at all since they could just block the other account if they're using both to bother them.

As has already been said, doing that in the first place would require the blocked user to realize someone blocked them and make a deliberate attempt to antagonize that specific person. The presumed multi account spamming would also get their posts removed entirely and could potentially lead to more severe consequences regardless of what people had originally blocked them for.


@Draco Burnz

Ban dodging is generally a severe offense in rules of conduct that can lead to longer/permanent bans or IP bans. It's not the kind of thing that should be tolerated. It's functionally a type of sockpuppeting so refer to what I said above.

Blocking isn't just for spamming. It's a forum QoL feature that improves people's experience with the forum and reduces the incidence of spamming and off topic thread derailments by making it more feasible for people to ignore people they can't have an on topic, non spam and non antagonistic discussion with, reducing the incidence of things requiring mod intervention. How to block a forum user

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14-Jun-2022 04:14:26

Spearmint30
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Mel 624 said :
As has already been said, doing that in the first place would require the blocked user to realize someone blocked them and make a deliberate attempt to antagonize that specific person. The presumed multi account spamming would also get their posts removed entirely and could potentially lead to more severe consequences regardless of what people had originally blocked them for. Yes, this is (obviously, I thought) exactly what I was getting at.

For the most part, the attempts to refute the support of this proposal have been a straw man almost the whole time - as I am anticipating the response to this post to be.

That said - I leave my full support with this thread for this suggestion and would love to see it implemented in a way that does not hinder or prohibit (potentially ignored) users from posting and just allows (potentially annoyed) users to silently not see posts by other (potentially annoying) users if they so desire not to. That allows the ignored users to keep on carrying on with anyone else who is not ignoring them and being none the wiser - for all they know, they're just being ignored in the same way as the counter... arguments?... statements?... presented within this thread. That was a mouth-full, but yeah - I'm sure the idea gets across.
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14-Jun-2022 05:42:29

Draco Burnz
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Mel 624 said :


Ban dodging is generally a severe offense in rules of conduct that can lead to longer/permanent bans or IP bans. It's not the kind of thing that should be tolerated. It's functionally a type of sockpuppeting so refer to what I said above.

Blocking isn't just for spamming. It's a forum QoL feature that improves people's experience with the forum and reduces the incidence of spamming and off topic thread derailments by making it more feasible for people to ignore people they can't have an on topic, non spam and non antagonistic discussion with, reducing the incidence of things requiring mod intervention.

TFW IP bans do nothing nowadays. So why ppl still bring that up is mind numbing.

Plus i fail to see this as "qol" as its mostly just for those who cbb to not deal with things on their own.

I mean why must you reply to everything everyone says to all your posts?

Whats stopping you from just choosing who to reply to?

If you choose to reply to everyone then thats 100% on you.

Once again, if ppl are going off-topic and/or spamming, they should be reported to Forum Help.

Allowing ppl to continue doesnt help anything/anyone.
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14-Jun-2022 11:47:36 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2022 22:45:41 by Draco Burnz

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