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Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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A Cole said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Eventually, Jagex will have their own equivalence of Battle.net where we can access all their games across all platforms as well as all the news. Hint... hint... Jagex's Partners.

So they're already working on something akin to what is being suggested here?

Why didn't you mention this in the first place

~A~

Not "something akin to what is being suggested here" at all, but for more important news than just a mere "system upated" message, and for the entire company, not just RS3 and OSRS but all the Jagex's new games and the games they are going to publish for their Partners. And I seriously doubt it will be any "automated" system. It probably more like the Support Center format.

16-Mar-2021 20:06:08

Nov

2003

A Cole

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I'm not just talking about "system update" messages. I'm talking about ALL messages. If there are more branches, then each of those can have their own message centre too: RS, OS, and whatever new content Jagex may have in the pipeline.

~A~

16-Mar-2021 20:40:49

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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A Cole said :
I'm not just talking about "system update" messages. I'm talking about ALL messages. If there are more branches, then each of those can have their own message centre too: RS, OS, and whatever new content Jagex may have in the pipeline.

~A~

You explicitly mentioned

"A recent example of news being hidden away on social media was the system update on 11/03/21"

This is the kind of unimportant messages we are certain not to see in AAA level platforms, and therefore unlikely to see in Jagex's new platform.

16-Mar-2021 20:47:11

Sep

2011

Loki

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Been watching this thread, and the other before it was locked very closely...

Dilbert2001 said :
How can anything be automatic without real player interaction? Note that (at least I believe) Loki has to manually browse through all the social media to bring us Jagex news and comments. Nothing is automatic. Correct, I manually check through all the Social Media channels throughout my day during my lunch break, or after work, to see what can be shared on the RSOF, which hasn't already been shared on the official website or forums.

With Reddit, the RS3 Reddit has a feature to toggle any threads that a JMod has responded to, which makes it easier for me to collect the information to share. For some reason, the OSRS Reddit does not allow this feature, so I do not share information from there as often as I would like to. I also do not play OSRS, so I personally don't feel qualified to know what to share and what not to share from there. I do browse the OSRS Reddit to see if anything pops out that a JMod has responded to, but that is quite rare.

With Twitter, I manually check the various JMod twitter accounts to see if anything of note has been shared by them, whether a post by them, or a response to someone else's comment.

With Discord, there's a bot we set up that automatically records when a JMod has posted, what their comment is, and where they posted it, with a link to easily access it. I use that to share anything of value on the RSOF thread.

Instagram, Facebook, Flikr and YouTube are rarely ever used by Jagex now, so you'll almost never see anything shared from them from me.

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16-Mar-2021 20:48:45

Sep

2011

Loki

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... continued from above.

I do think the idea of having something automatic to share things on the forums/website would be a good idea, as my time in real life has been limited ever since I moved to the UK, hence the SMN threads don't usually get 150+ posts on it per month like they used to. There's also the times that I can miss something that has been shared, or I am a few hours, or even a day late sharing the information, but this is why I opened up the thread to everyone, and have stated on every version that anyone is welcome to share any news they find.

The thread has been going for almost 3 years now, that it's become a part of my routine every day. The idea of starting the thread was a place for the community to share whatever they found offsite, and to post it on there. There was no intentions of me doing it alone, however I'm more than happy to continue posting and sharing, even if I am alone doing it. I am still of the belief that those who choose to only use the official RS website and forums, should not miss out on any information shared externally. It's not fair on them at all. I was very honoured when Tuffty recommended the thread for the Forum Spotlight when Mod Kari introduced the concept, because I did think this would open up the forums, and sharing of information to the wider community. I also thought it would let those who only liked using the official website/forums, know that there was a place to read any external information.

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16-Mar-2021 20:49:16

Sep

2011

Loki

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... continued from above.

Regardless of whether something automatic is put in place, or I am to continue posting alone, or things are not shared on the official website or forums, I will continue to make my thread, and post on it to keep everyone updated. That also goes for the other threads I've made in the past which are major announcements, too important to hide on the SMN thread alone. It might not be the most efficient method for this, but it’s all we’ve got for now, and it’ll have to do. I am completely ok with continuing on these threads.

Sorry if the posts don't make total sense... I actually had to type this out twice because the forums force logged me out, and then I couldn't go back to get all the text...

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16-Mar-2021 20:50:07

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Dilbert2001 said :
This is the kind of unimportant messages we are certain not to see in AAA level platforms, and therefore unlikely to see in Jagex's new platform. This was an example of a message that is important for the community to know about. Jagex clearly felt it important enough to share too, however as they either have no procedure in place for sharing this information, or that the procedure they do have isn't up to scratch, many people did now know why this update was happening.

With this example, the update timer appeared in-game, but there was no news about it in the usual places. This led many of us to believe that the update wasn't real and we could go on with our usual business. After all, this occurred at an unusual time for updates to appear, and there is history of update timers appearing yet no update actually happening.

Why is this important? We're led to believe that if the update timer appears, it's best to avoid all dangerous activities as you will be logged out once the timer hits zero. Some people even see this timer as a time to go do something else until after the update is complete. But if the timer appears and no update occurs, people are going to lose faith in whether future update timers are real or not, hence may put their accounts at risk regardless of the timer. Having a message in a clear, obvious and consistent place to back up the in-game timer will help authenticate this process.

Other AAA games tell their users that an update is coming. They don't need to go into details about it, but they do tell them. If they don't, then they tend to be games that don't kick you out of the game for the update to occur. From my experience, they wait until you are done with the game before they start.

RS cannot do that, hence why they post news regarding updates.

~A~

16-Mar-2021 20:58:19

Nov

2003

A Cole

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Thanks for your reply Loki.

It certainly seems to me to be a hefty chore going through all those social medias to extract news. I understand you may be doing it regardless for your own knowledge, but I'm sure if anyone would appreciate a one-stop-shop for news it would be you. After all, you've created one

Regarding Facebook news, I do see the odd bits of big headliner news posted there, and whenever there are major issues occurring such as the current situation. I don't think I've ever seen a Jmod post on the replies either.

It's interesting that you can use bots to weed out the news from Jmods on Discord. This is essentially what my idea is, only for it to be expanded to other bits of social media too. Each social media may need their own bots, but it's essentially the same outcome.

I'm glad you're happy to continue with your work on those threads. As you say, you're making the most of what you've got, and there's clearly a need for it else you may not continue doing it. That is until an automated system comes to fore. I'm not trying to do you out of your job, honest

~A~

16-Mar-2021 21:14:15 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2021 21:16:32 by A Cole

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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@A Cole

"This was an example of a message that is ~~important~~

NOT NECESSARY

for the community to know about. "

Correct it for you or else the lack of such "important" message for the OSRS community will be really a joke!

We are going to have actual important messages like big content reveal, company news etc shown on the new platform but unnecessary messages like what your example shows aren't what we need and we are not likely to see them as in all the other games.

16-Mar-2021 21:17:23

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Loki said :

With Reddit, the RS3 Reddit has a feature to toggle any threads that a JMod has responded to, which makes it easier for me to collect the information to share.

For some reason, the OSRS Reddit does not allow this feature,

so I do not share information from there as often as I would like to. I also do not play OSRS, so I personally don't feel qualified to know what to share and what not to share from there. I do browse the OSRS Reddit to see if anything pops out that a JMod has responded to, but that is quite rare.

Thank you for verifying my point: Not many players, and even the OSRS subreddit doesn't think individual JMod messages are "important" information that everybody in the sub needs to know, let alone the RSOF.

16-Mar-2021 21:25:39

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