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Lil Indecent

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Amaethwr said :
15 minute caching.. Any ideas as to why? Lol

And didn't know that about android overtaking windows bit

No idea why in regard to caching. I posted about it on W&F section and got a reply, they have no clue as to why either. Thing is it was changed relatively recently, but they seem to believe it has always been this way. It definitely hasn't always been that way.

You can see it too, all the images on this site are constantly being re-downloaded rather than read from cache. When a page is slower than usual, chances are it's because they told the browser's cache to expire.

As for the stats about Android, it's only been in the last few weeks this has happened. So it's all pretty new. Though most webmasters saw it coming ages ago. We must be careful how we interpret those numbers. The nature of mobile traffic differs from desktop traffic in many ways. In some cases there is no substitute for a large screen, lots of ram and a powerful CPU.

Also I use mobile internet for my desktop, many people teather and such. It might only account for a small percentage of users but that's enough to tip the balance toward android right now because the margins are so close.

I expect if anyone is shitting themselves it'll be Apple as Microsoft still dominate the desktop. Mac's desktop share is insignificant in terms of competition. Their share of the mobile landscape isn't strong either, they are paying the price for the lack of innovation and not keeping up with current trends in tech.

http://www.investors.com/news/technology/laughingstock-apple-playing-around-the-edges-of-streaming-tv-market/

In general there is only really 2 big guys in areas of tech (hardware and software). Xbox/Playstation, Intel/AMD, Radeon/Nvidia, Firefox/Chrome, and so on. Now in regard to operating systems it's Microsoft and Android.

Article about Android passing Windows:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/03/statcounter-android-windows/

25-Apr-2017 01:30:27

Amaethwr
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Lil Indecent said :
got a reply, they have no clue as to why either. Thing is it was changed relatively recently, but they seem to believe it has always been this way.
Haha, great, did they show any intention of changing it?


Lil Indecent said :
Also I use mobile internet for my desktop, many people teather and such.
Ah, yea, me too.. It hadn't crossed my mind - I'm accounting for up to 20GB data per month!

Thanks for those links, interesting stuff :)


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Apple TV hasn't had a hardware update since October 2015.
Seems like a pretty long time in this techy age


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A recent App Annie report found that iOS accounted for just over 25 billion of the 90 billion app downloads made in 2016, with Android taking the remainder.
At first I misread it as "90 billion apps made in 2016", haha, still though, that sounds like a lot of downloads

Was just curious about number of android and iOS devices used, quick search found 1.4b active android devices in Sept 2015 and 1b iOS devices in Jan 2016, not sure on more up-to-date figures


http://www.androidcentral.com/google-says-there-are-now-14-billion-active-android-devices-worldwide
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/26/10835748/apple-devices-active-1-billion-iphone-ipad-ios
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25-Apr-2017 10:58:21

Lil Indecent

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Amaethwr said :
Haha, great, did they show any intention of changing it?

Mod Lyon's replies indicate that sometime in the future it'll be rectified. Thread is here if you're interested in his replies: 278-279-293-65897482 He's pretty good when it comes to replying and he takes my bluntness well, though we don't always get the answer we like.

Amaethwr said :
Was just curious about number of android and iOS devices used

No idea, I expect the numbers to be reasonable, comparing them to the competition wont always give a true perspective because we are talking about companies that do things differently.

I'll use xbox as an example. This is pretty much Microsoft's words, not exactly so don't quote me, "The Xbox division is a hole that we throw money into, the software is where we recoup those costs and eventually profit" . I believe that's not too dissimilar to other companies who produce both hardware and software. Apple charge more for their hardware but they still need digital sales. Android have no hardware overheads at all.

You can have less devices out there if you're selling enough digital material. If that material is compatible (mp3 for example) with your competition's devices then you've got a bigger market. Not only that, bringing the users of your competitors devices to your store (iTunes) is very significant and should not be underestimated.

But...Apple take 30% of all payments made through iTunes, iOS users can go to Spotify directly and save 30%. Apple loses that revenue and potential shoppers. Video, well that's even worse for them. If they become known as the inferior platform for audio and video, ouch!

This is all my theory based on limited knowledge, take it all lightly. Sometimes I'm very wrong, other times I've been right on the money.

Change is coming, I just hope it's interesting :)

25-Apr-2017 12:26:47 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2017 14:06:23 by Lil Indecent

Lil Indecent

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Ran out room, just wanted to say thanks for the links, 1.4 billion is just insane. I had no idea there was that many Androids out there, the ios numbers are very impressive too.

25-Apr-2017 12:30:31 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2017 12:36:24 by Lil Indecent

Amaethwr
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Lil Indecent said :
Mod Lyon's replies indicate that sometime in the future it'll be rectified. Thread is here if you're interested in his replies: 278-279-293-65897482 He's pretty good when it comes to replying and he takes my bluntness well, though we don't always get the answer we like.
Could at least chuck another 0 on the end for 2.5 hours :)

And fair enough, thanks for the reading! Can always count on you to give rather in-depth responses :P Suppose you can't help yourself when it comes to techy stuff!

E: Haha, yea quite a few, and that was over a year ago, so potentially 1.5b+ now

E2: Yea, 1.6b now apparently (opening paragraph)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2017/02/20/this-is-how-google-keeps-1-6-billion-android-devices-safe
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25-Apr-2017 12:41:36 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2017 12:47:26 by Amaethwr

Lil Indecent

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I'm no expert (far from it) but I love to speculate.

This is particularly hard because of what I touched on earlier, very different companies producing different stuff.

Haven't even put phone manufacturers into the picture (samsung for example), then it gets really crazy :)

At least one thing is clear, mobile internet is a major thing, no longer something that can be put on the back burner and get around to it later. It should be a priority for those who want an online presence.

Now that Android is bigger than Windows on the web, it's a no brainer where to focus.

Before I found out that Android passed Windows, I was saying to a friend who knows a bit of java, "You're so lucky, you can develop for Android" . I didn't realise just how significant that was. I'm envious in some ways. I hope she sees this post :)

Edit:

Really tired atm and must sleep, but I want to say big thanks, Amaethwr. Been a great discussion, very enjoyable and I've learnt a few things too :)

25-Apr-2017 14:23:21 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2017 14:32:41 by Lil Indecent

Lil Indecent

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Draco Burnz said :
Just wondering and im not asking for it to, but is it possible to remove forum titles?

It's no trouble for me to add an option to do that. Even though you're not asking me to do it I'm happy to do so. I'll try to get it done by the weekend :)

09-May-2017 00:46:49

Amaethwr
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Singularity quoted the following into the HLF lounge - How plausible? :P


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Lol. Of course they don't actually exist. It isn't a real URL (in the sense that no one owns it right now) nor have I used an actual image on Imgur as an example. After all, it's just an example. ;)
and if nexus0rigin.com/i4eRty.png is an image it'll show the image, and if it is just an empty page that drags you do a new page it'll show error flags which will result in reports and permbans.
How long do you think it would take me to disassemble the Linkify extension, and use it to compromise your system? All I would need to do is have my server respond to the Linkify requests with very specific responses which not only embed the image into the post, but also embeds Javascript into the post. Chrome Extensions are nothing more than XML and HTML. It's not exactly closed source. Now I don't even need to have you visit the URL, I can just compromise your system directly from the RSOF. O_o

Clicked on my thread or read my post?

*boom*

System compromised. Thanks Linkify!
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