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Shanks

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Summoning isn't an issue period. Honestly don't understand why people even train it on dxp/enlightenment when you easily get more than the charms you'll ever need just from 200m slayer. And it's cheaper than some of the other buyables anyway.

25-Jul-2015 00:55:11

Lifer
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Lifer

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Sure, casual slayer is usually 1:1 summoning to slayer without any boosts but this thread is not about casual slayer, it's being efficient.

Dxp is required though (or bxp) to be optimal though. The most optimal currently known combat/slayer combo without money issue boasts 303k slayer and 753k combat exp (629k melee exp/h & ~130k ranged exp p/h.)

But the summoning to slayer ratio is 0.52:1 or 104m summoning exp @ 200m slayer. Dxpw (or bxp) is required for summoning to reach 200m.

We never talked about the cost of summoning anyway, we know it's cheap :p

25-Jul-2015 01:14:36 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2015 01:15:57 by Lifer

Llumys
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Depends. For a regular player? No problem.

For theoretical efficiency? Ionno. Can't hurt to make calculations to be sure.

What's the charm per combat XP rate in the Abyss?

25-Jul-2015 01:35:57 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2015 01:37:34 by Llumys

NWO Sharum
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@AoDude/Lifer/Other Google Spreadsheet experts



Let's say I have a document that I want to share with 30-50 trusted people. I want to collect ideas from them, so I allow them to edit the document. However, these ideas are very sensitive and cannot be leaked whatsoever.

How safe is Google Docs in this case? How safe is it to share the sheet by link?

And is there any way to set a password on a Google Sheet? (so you'd need to paste the link and type in a password to view the sheet)
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25-Jul-2015 15:32:11

Yewnock
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Llumys said :
Depends. For a regular player? No problem.

For theoretical efficiency? Ionno. Can't hurt to make calculations to be sure.

What's the charm per combat XP rate in the Abyss? Yes, I think calculations should be made to be sure. But Shanks does have a good point. Since we are not considering effigies here (gwd is basically 0 charms), it's possible enough charms can be gathered while training combat.

Judging by Joffrey's video on chinning abyss for 1h, he got 73 crimsons and 16 blues (actually, that is from just under 59 minutes since he didn't show inventory at 1h, but he didn't include time to get to the abyss, so it's close enough). That means around 44.3k summoning xp/h, or 88.6k if on dxp weekend, for 720k ranged xp. Using that combat:summoning xp ratio, say one plans to get 500m combat xp in the abyss, that would come with around 62m summoning xp worth of charms (on dxp). That's significant, and means there's no need to keep the summoning:slayer ratio on over 1:1. The exact turnout point depends on how much xp will need be gained in the abyss after slayer, therefore on the task selection. Again this will be modified with masks, so I won't bother with precise calculations for now.

Other combat training methods could be considered thoug, which could help even more with summoning. Glacors are on par with abyss on task for magic xp (Lifer, you need to include glacytes xp for glacors on sheet!), and singificantly better summoning xp (over 400k on dxp). Maybe glacors could replace abyss for magic for the sake of summoning; I want to test the rates there out of task, but I'll wait until I get the new magic basic ability. By the numbers on the sheet, celetial dragons sound a great option for ranged (and I presume accuracy is not a problem with ranged, so out of task rate wouldn't be so much worse), but I have to admit the 400 kills/h on them sounds unrealistic, unless I've been doing something really wrong?

25-Jul-2015 19:39:11

Lathow
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I think this is kinda obvious, but if I want to hunt edimmu pet/kethsi scrolls after reaching 200m slayer it's best if I just prefer edimmus and block all the high weight tasks and just cancel for edis right? As for scrolls, just kill rune dragons off task. Hi

25-Jul-2015 20:12:46

Lifer
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Yewnock said :
(Lifer, you need to include glacytes xp for glacors on sheet!)

Ooo right, thanks!

170 kph for glacors sound right?

Btw, I got the 400 number from Llumys I think - for using summoning potions.

@Lathow, yes, block all the highest weighted tasks. I think you can block all weightings above 10 and if there's slots to spare, block random weighting 10 tasks.

25-Jul-2015 21:32:54 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2015 21:38:33 by Lifer

Lifer
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Lifer

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NWO Sharum said :
@AoDude/Lifer/Other Google Spreadsheet experts



Let's say I have a document that I want to share with 30-50 trusted people. I want to collect ideas from them, so I allow them to edit the document. However, these ideas are very sensitive and cannot be leaked whatsoever.

How safe is Google Docs in this case? How safe is it to share the sheet by link?

And is there any way to set a password on a Google Sheet? (so you'd need to paste the link and type in a password to view the sheet)

Google docs are pretty safe (it has a revision history so you can always revert in case someone erases the content.)

Sharing by link is not too good, anyone with link can get it. You must get those people to register their google accounts if they don't have one and then you can invite them by knowing their gmails.

So the only way to view the document is via their gmail accounts provided they have the permission given by you.

Downside to giving everyone edit rights is that they also can invite others.

Lastly, there's no password - just use google accounts.

25-Jul-2015 21:36:57

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