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Llumys
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Yeah, if ranged is 700k+ with some attention, and melee's only ~600k with more attention, melee's definitely still the best option for Slayer. Actually, that difference is small enough to be relevant. Celestial dragons with melee+steel titan are, on Lifer's sheet, 236k slayer xp/h. With range and avatar I got 287k slayer xp/h (steel titans are most likely better, but I wanted to test both - I included the rate with ava here because I messed up on the one I tried with titan; and using ava is also the reason I used xp/h and not kills/h to compare). That's a 22% increase on xp rates, while range is only 17% faster than melee. That also helps to solve the excess melee xp issue. How exactly that will work needs to be more carefully calculated, of course. But it could also be something thought for other tasks (particularly waterfiends - am I the only one who dislikes melee'ing them?
).
More precise data on abyss xp rates would be necessary (specially making sure the same boosts were used for the different tests), and considering the new ability. I'm not sure how to include afk'ability on this though. Pretty sure the 800k mage xp/h is only obtainable without afk'ing though, while the considered range/melee rates allowed a bit of it.
By the way, no one mentioned it, but I presumed the shards+shatter and onslaught are completely useless for slayer. Did anyone try anything with them? (the others sound very useful for range/mage).
Regarding money you were previously discussing, indeed, consistent 18m gp/h requires "special" methods, but effective 18m gp/h is not at all unrealistic. Inactive flipping and investing or using alts for money can be effectively (considering the actual time they consume) a lot more than that. Even someone with low capital and little experience should be able to get an 1m inactive flip which consumes like 1 minute of making the offers, so that alone would equate to 60m gp/h.
Yeah, if ranged is 700k+ with some attention, and melee's only ~600k with more attention, melee's definitely still the best option for Slayer. Actually, that difference is small enough to be relevant. Celestial dragons with melee+steel titan are, on Lifer's sheet, 236k slayer xp/h. With range and avatar I got 287k slayer xp/h (steel titans are most likely better, but I wanted to test both - I included the rate with ava here because I messed up on the one I tried with titan; and using ava is also the reason I used xp/h and not kills/h to compare). That's a 22% increase on xp rates, while range is only 17% faster than melee. That also helps to solve the excess melee xp issue. How exactly that will work needs to be more carefully calculated, of course. But it could also be something thought for other tasks (particularly waterfiends - am I the only one who dislikes melee'ing them?
).
More precise data on abyss xp rates would be necessary (specially making sure the same boosts were used for the different tests), and considering the new ability. I'm not sure how to include afk'ability on this though. Pretty sure the 800k mage xp/h is only obtainable without afk'ing though, while the considered range/melee rates allowed a bit of it.
By the way, no one mentioned it, but I presumed the shards+shatter and onslaught are completely useless for slayer. Did anyone try anything with them? (the others sound very useful for range/mage).
Regarding money you were previously discussing, indeed, consistent 18m gp/h requires "special" methods, but effective 18m gp/h is not at all unrealistic. Inactive flipping and investing or using alts for money can be effectively (considering the actual time they consume) a lot more than that. Even someone with low capital and little experience should be able to get an 1m inactive flip which consumes like 1 minute of making the offers, so that alone would equate to 60m gp/h.
20-Jul-2015 02:47:10
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