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27-Dec-2010 04:10:35

Zappaluke

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I am really behind reintroducing Free Trade and the old wilderness mechanics but it would be a lot easier for Jagex to keep things fair if you guys could just make the old pk method(u get all the items that the person was wearing) with no earnings potential and just make that work in PvP wolds because that's what most people care about.

27-Dec-2010 04:40:37

Jordeo6

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I voted YES but i would have rathered that you could vote for either, yes for wildy, yes for free trade, yes for both free trade and wildy, or no for free trade and wildy. I dont want the old wildy to come back as I like the pvp and bounty worlds as they are now, but then i really want free trade so i ended up voting yes anyway.

27-Dec-2010 05:15:52

Matt Man8

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Bring it back! When the update was applied in 2007 the number of players dropped drastically, including myself and many friends who I made throughout the course of my time playing... Bringing back will have NO cons. I don't care if some low level idiot gets scammed out of his iron armor. Whoop de doo. Low level players don't have anything that's worth crying over losing and you have to get scammed at least a few times to smarten up (I know I've been scammed before and it's not fun, but I got over it). I don't care if people get lured either. If you're not smart enough to realize that walking into the wild with all of your valuables on you is not a good idea, you deserve to lose it all. What it really comes down: USE COMMON SENSE! Not everyone on the internet has your best interests at heart.
As for the wilderness. For the first 7 years of runescapes existence the wild was a place that you actually had to be careful in. There was always a chance that you could lose all of your stuff. But there was also a chance that you could kill someone else for their stuff. I never made any serious money PKing (I made pures that only ever made it to like 40 combat) but it was still a fun time.
Summary: If you vote against bringing the wild and free trade back you are selfish. If you don't want to get PKed, don't go in the wild. If you don't want to get scammed, don't be an idiot. Think you won't make any money with free trade? I used to be able to make millions a day (not scamming, luring, anything dirty) just by using some basic principles of money making (buy low, sell high). It's fair and everyone benefits. It sickens me that people would even consider voting "no" for this.

27-Dec-2010 06:03:21

Alaz

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I voted no because I want a compromise between the two. If there is not compromise, there must be a polarized community, no good for anyone.
1. Return the Old Wildy. However, the drop mechanic should be the same as the current PVP/BH worlds, but overhauled to be more profitable. There should be a much more greatly increased chance of getting your opponents items, but only in a fight where both sides give their all. The biggest problem I've heard with the current way of things is just the profitability of it.
2. Free trade can't work. Freedom is too readily abused. Put restrictions on it, but relax them. Make trade limits based on time since account creation, or something along those lines. Avoid basing it purely on quest points, as pures are a large part of the community.
I like the prospect of free trade, but would prefer the RWT community not even have the CHANCE that this update *might* bring. No system is perfect, and RWTers WILL find a loophole if there exists even a single one.
Don't be overconfident, please.
Compromise, pl0x. :)

~ Alan
P.S. The vote is very 'democratic' except for the "one person, one vote" aspect.

27-Dec-2010 06:25:03

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I have already posted about free trading (page 78), now have a look at wildy!
As I imagine the future Jagex wouldn't fully restore the old wildy. That was pixelated and "empty". I imagine the Wildy we vote on as the followings:
1. Obviously it should be as large as at present.
2. It should contain more natural elements as the name "Wilderness" makes you guess.
For example more hills, lakes, vulcanos, obstackles, dungeons(?), places to hide and places to camp with pking clans.
3. The bone yard was a really good space.
4. The BH aka Wilderness Vulcano takes about 1/5 of Wildy in place but has no function. Remove it!
5. Clan wars should be relocated. It has nothing to do with wildy because it's a SAFE minigame.
6. LESS REVENANTS!!! And Less high-level monsters such as Chaos Elementals patrolling around. WILDY IS FOR PKING!!
ABOUT THE DROPS.
Drops should be 100% the same that people really carry.
And additionally there would be some bonus drops such as ancient artefacts if the player deserves them.

27-Dec-2010 08:57:09

Vizua
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Here we go again, people whining about clue scrolls and other pvm things that they need to go into the wildy for. Listen to me carefully now.
All of you keep saying have played since 2004, 2005 or 2006 and you know what the old wildy is like blah blah blah but you are either talking out your behind or you're just being a complete noob, looking for the game to be as easy as you can possibly get it. People managed to do clue scrolls fine before, they killed green dragons and they went to other pvm places (KBD etc). Why can't you pvm whiners do the same? Like I said, you just want the game as easy as you can get it.
Another thing is this:
Back in 2006 I remember going to pk in the "non-pking worlds" and I'd be lucky if I found anyone worth pking (I.E another player geared to pk someone). Most worlds were completely void of pkers because all the pking happened in world 18 and I think it was one of the NL worlds (54 or something??). So, what makes you think every world now will have 50 pkers all running around every part of the wildy set out to ruin your clue scroll? There won't be! Sure you might get a few at edgeville wanting to kill a runecrafter, or a few fighting amongst themselves at edgeville or mage bank but I guarantee that will be just about it.
So in a nutshell, man (or woman) up and stop being so flippin wimpy all your life. People have scoured the wilderness millions of times before without being killed by a pker so someone tell me why you think it will be different now, why you think you will 100% be killed when doing your clue?
Here's a statistic for you:
I was online yesterday at around 5pm GMT.
I checked all the P2P PVP worlds and in total I think there were around 1.6k people on them.
So world 18 used to have around 600-2k players on at any one time.
Work the rest out for yourself, I think you will find that you will be pretty damn safe to do your cluescroll without being killed.
Of course there's always a LOG OUT button you can use :)

27-Dec-2010 10:01:12

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